right turns suck

I have never heard of trucking maneuver called "jug handle" LOL I guess this would go down with the pork chop comment Or Pancake lol I am sure some of you will get that if you have been around a while..

This maneuver is not called as a button hook.. This would be considered a "right turn" where is the "button"??????? The point of the word "button" is to make a rounding turn like a "Button", This would be using all the space necessary to make a tight right turn.... Pulling strait out into the inter section and turning right is simply a right turn..

This is called a BUTTONHOOK not a "jug handle" lol... Simply Google "truck "button hook" and you will find tons of information describing the turn I explained.. Google "truck jug handle" and your going to get a type of actual road turn" (some intersection, I have mostly ran into them in NY city called jug handle.. The road itself is shaped as a jug handle.. LOL not a maneuver shaped as a jug handle) What school did you go-to? they should be using a common trucking language

This is absolutely not true.. If you do approach in this manner you are leaving yourself open for someone to slide in on your right side.. An accident waiting to happen here.

what you are saying here is if the is a second right turn lane then it is okay to use it? okay then you would be again setting yourself up for someone to slide into your right side.. You need to keep your trailer in the right lane to prevent a car from entering your right side and use the second left turn lane to buttonhook if needed... this would prevent someone from cutting in on your right side..

If a button hook is needed then that is the distance you need (varies a bit with how wide a road is, how many lanes you have to turn into ext..)

Hum I am not the only one who knows you should start 25-30 feet back in order to do a button hook (again the space needed varies and only is learned with experience but as a beginner you should always start setting up at this distance until you have the experience to judge what you will need)

Okay I guess I am now compelled to draw a diagram.. LOL call somebodies company, jeez we have another one on the road...

LOL okay there you Go, Its rough but you should be able to get the point.. Click on link or pick
(I could post the actual pics out of the CDL guide but then I would be risking copyright so here are some drawings you all can laugh at, due to my well drawn pics lol)

http://www.largeimagehost.com/gallerys/untilted/ssUrQ.html








Here is a link on the definition of a Jug handle far as traffic goes..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jughandle


And I just wanted to add this pic of a real button hook where the term "button hook" came from.. Notice the "HOOK" it looks exactly like the turn truckers make.....

 

Everyday I have to get my truck (on a 4 lane rd) over to the 3rd lane to my left ( which is an oncoming traffic lane) in order to clear the telephone pole on the corner and the cars that are waiting at the light of the street I park on. When you have been driving a little longer you will realize there are situations that school didn't teach you. I would much rather have someone call my company for crossing the yellow line (fyi you would get me on the phone) than curb a tire and rim ($700). There is no way in the world i would ever be able to make half the corners i do without crossing the yellow line. You just have to be experienced enough to be watching oncoming traffic, traffic turning from your left, traffic behind you on your right (sneaking around you in mid turn) , the bumper of the car to your left as you turning onto the st on your right, and the track of your trailer ( poles and pedestrians)

 

Where's this turn at?

And to the others, I took the OP as meaning a regular old right turn. I didn't see anything about these being super-tight turns where you do need to use what I refer to as the jug-handle (as I was told in school). I'm not arguing that there are times where it has to be done, I've done it about 2 or 3 times on the road myself. But opening up that space on the right in a simple right turn is quite dangerous. I'd love to see the intersection where you have to be over in the 3rd lane, though. The instructors took us through some pretty tight corners while in school (posts right on the corner sticking into the road) and the only time we had to swing to the left before turning was when the road we were turning on was too narrow. I've taken some pretty tight ones in downtown Chicago, Connecticut, and New York. Sure you have a lot more experience than me, but if you do at least one of these a month, logic says I've been on at some turns that are just as tight (and probably found a safe spot to turn around so I could come from the other direction).

 

I'm sure the longer you are around you will see the some of the turns that the instructors took you around might just be a walk in the park compared to others

 

Ok, you're right, I could have never possibly imagined a turn as tight as you've seen in your 18 years. I mean, you've probably taken corners I couldn't take in my 4-wheeler! Funny that's the only part of the thread you quote.

 

The point I was trying to make is that just because your instructors took you on some tight turns, there are probably many more turns out there that are three times as hard that they didnt have you do because of lack of experience at the time. If you make "one tight turn a month" thats only 12 a year by my count which is what alot of people do twice of in a day. Glad you found it funny I quoted you

 

In a pinch, remember this trucker's mathematical formula:

3 Left turns = a Right turn.

(Go past the difficult right turn to where you can make a left turn and turn left. Then go to where you can make another left turn, and make another left turn. Then continue to the street you originally wanted to turn right on -- and turn left on it. Now, all you have to do is go straight across the intersection with the difficult right turn instead of turning right onto it.)

I know, I know,.............. that isn't always possible. But when it is, it can be a lifesaver.
SOMEtimes a truckers gotta do what a truckers gotta do to get 'er done.

 

Hey hand, not to say you are incorrect or anything but what you have drawn out is a jughandle.


The picture is right out of the Ga Commercial Drivers Manual. As far as I know that type of turn has always been called a jughandle. At least it was called that from 92-95 back when I drove.

 

Alot of it has to do with how far the 4-wheelers pull up to the line. I live in the North East I run Boston, NYC, Jersey all the time. With a long truck and an 18" king pin corners get pretty tight. I used to own a freightliner years ago and never had to make turns the way I do with my KW. There are alot of different variables that factor into turns.