Diagnostics of a 09 387 Pete.

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  1. LNB

    LNB Bobtail Member

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    Hi we are new here and also new to Peterbilt trucks. Had our 387 less than a year. First question I have is about the Peterbilt diagnostic software capability. When the truck is hooked up to the " computer' does it have the ability to diagnose a blown fuse and isolate where that fuse is located in the truck?

    Who is authorized to use / own this software and does it require specialized training from Peterbilt? Is there a DIY version available to the average O/O?

    I am looking for any and all input as it has just cost us a over 1400.00 to diagnose and replace a 13.00 fuse. I am looking for answers from anyone who has solid information on how the Peterbilt equipment works. Thanks in advance
     
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  3. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Like all software it will point you in a direction then it's up to the mechanic to diagnose with other means using a digital volt meter and such. It might tell you the circuit has low voltage or similar. It can't be specific as telling you a fuse. The connector might be corroded or the harness might have a wire broke in two, etc. The software is only available to shops but there are bootleg copies out there. Then you need to know how to use it and interpret things. Then you need further diagnostic tools.

    What was the original problem that made you head to a shop? We have a few good mechanics on here that could of probably saved you a lot of money if it was only a fuse.
     
  4. LNB

    LNB Bobtail Member

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    We were stopped at a truck stop, went in a ate dinner but left the truck running. Came back out, shut down the truck and started up the APU. Everything went dead. We are in a part of the country where apparently there are NO diesel shops or mechanics that work past 6 at night so we went to a hotel for the night. Temp was -14 with wind chill. Next morning shop guys said they would put it on computer and figure it out. we described exactly what happened along with the verbiage that it was like a fuse blew or a breaker in a house flipped off. Friday night at five o'clock, they hand us a bill for 700.00 ( they are going home) and the truck is still not running. They don't know what is wrong with it. Called a tow truck (225.00) to go to another shop, cause the Freightliner dealer is backed up 17 trucks and can't get to us until next Wed and the Kenworth guy has to charge us time and a half for Sat but his guy is already booked and he can't get us in. Have the truck sent to a guy that Kenworth referred us to. also explained to them what happened and that ( again) it was like it blew a fuse or a breaker in a house popped. We are back in hotel, now up to 225.00 and by Sat night he calls and says its fixed. One 13.00 fuse later and another 706.00 bill, we have a running truck. We also lost our load in the process. I am furious as to how this can even be possible. We have been told that Cummins and Peterbilt have all this high tech diagnostic software and highly trained technicians that are trained to use it but no one can readily diagnose one dang blown fuse?? There is even more to this story that I won't go into here but you have the gist of what happened.

    At this point I am trying to determine exactly what these high end computers do. We didn't just get repaired, we got raped. There has to be some way to circumvent this in the future without having to become a mechanic myself. I am angry at this entire chain of events and cannot imagine how the industry as a whole can justify or explain anyone having to pay over 1400.00 to diagnose and repair a blown fuse. To be fair, we were not and could not get to a Cummins shop ( they are closed on the weekends ) or a Peterbilt shop. Which is another rant... why do all these shops close at 5p.m and on weekends???? Aren't they a service industry? Shouldn't they be open when their customers are working. I don't suppose you know anyone who drives a truck after 6P.M. at night or on the weekends right??
     
  5. CondoCruiser

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    It sounds like a little price gouging going on. It's important to get to your specific dealer if possible because of the different training and appropriate literature and specialty tools for you model. Not all shops are 100% up to date on all models.

    I once broke down in the middle of nowhere. Truck just shut off and I coasted to the shoulder. I called my dispatcher in bed who was a well experienced former driver. He told me if it's not a fuel problem the only thing electrical that will keep a truck from running is the ECM is not getting power. Sure enough he was right. It took me a couple minutes to find the problem. The ECM wire has it's own battery hot and it's fused, runs through the ignition switch to the ECM. Many of the older trucks the ECM fuse was an inline fuse. You could trace the little hot wire off the battery and find it. Newer trucks they are putting them in the fuse panel. I bet that was your fuse.
     
  6. LNB

    LNB Bobtail Member

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    The fuse ended up being on the the battery box. we didn't even know there were fuses in the battery box.
     
  7. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Yep that's the ECM fuse. I wish you joined the forum earlier. We could of saved you a lot of heartache. You were taken for a ride because to a mechanic that's an easy and well known fix.
     
  8. wonderdog24

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    Ecm fuse is in the battery box...
     
  9. LNB

    LNB Bobtail Member

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    Yeah, I wish we had joined earlier as well. :) the first shop's computer showed an error code that translated to ECM and they told us that. Should that have alerted them that is was the ECM fuse at that point?
     
  10. LNB

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    Thank you all for your replies. I know now that we are in good hands!!:biggrin_25519:
     
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    that's a friggin rip off
     
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