Truck Stays Running With Key off.

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  1. Buckeyes614

    Buckeyes614 Light Load Member

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    Firstly I get the hvac no resp code on the dash, and when I tried to shut off my truck this evening it still kept on running, btw all my dome lights and cigarette ports stopped working, I checked all the fuses and they seem to be fine, the only way my truck will turn off is if I remove the ECM fuse from the fuse panel. Any help I would greatly appreciate it before I take it to a shop. I live in Columbus Ohio btw, if you know of any good shops here, pls let me know.
     
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  3. crb

    crb Road Train Member

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    Bad ignition?
     
  4. Buckeyes614

    Buckeyes614 Light Load Member

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    is there any way I can diagnose if its the ignition.
     
  5. bubbaray30

    bubbaray30 Light Load Member

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    check the solenoid or the wires around them. i have had the solenoid to go bad on a pickup truck and cause it to do that, might be the problem.
     
  6. Rooster1291979

    Rooster1291979 Road Train Member

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    I heard once if I leave the brakes set, put it in gear and release the clutch it shuts the truck off pretty quick. Heard it from a buddy, no first hand knowledge of course....
     
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  7. Six9GS

    Six9GS Road Train Member

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    I had an old Mercedes Diesel once (300D) and on several occasions it would not shut off when the ignition was turned off. There was a mechanical valve assembly under the hood that you'd have to push to shut off the flow of diesel. Under normal conditions a vacuum solenoid would shut off the diesel when the ignition was turned off.
    Anyway, don't know if the big rigs are somehow fundamentally different, but a diesel requires no ignition to run. So, when the ignition is turned off, something must activate to stop the flow of diesel fuel. It is not like a gasoline engine that requires an ignition system to run.

    I'm a wannabe, am I missing something here??
     
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  8. fld

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    That's true for the mechanical engines, but the electronic engines need electricity.

    You would have to remove the ignition switch and use an ohmmeter to test the leads. Either the plug or switch is marked, or you have to contact Freightliner to find out which terminal does what.

    Disconnect the batteries first. On the switch, there should be a batt terminal and an ign terminal. With the key off, the circuit between batt to ign should not be connected (no electricity to ign). With the key on, they should be connected (electricity to ign).

    Make sure you try several times because a faulty key switch can sometimes work, sometimes not.
     
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  9. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    you have a bad ground. one time my truck would not turn off with key. was ground at the starter. it came loose out of crimped end. check all connections at around starter area & all main hot & ground cables,wires, connections.
     
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  10. Six9GS

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    Are referring to the fuel delivery system, which would make sense? By design, diesel engines need no "ignition" system, pressure is built up inside the combustion chamber and "igniting" the fuel/air mixture happens by rules of physics, not by a spark as in a gasoline engine. so the term ignition is what confuses me here. However, they do need some method of having fuel delivered into the cylinder. Is this the "ignition" system that's being referred to? My old diesel had mechanical injectors, I could easily see electronic injectors and electronic controls.

    Please do not take what I am asking as any kind of sarcasm or anything like that. I am simply confused, desire to understand and am therefore asking questions trying to understand it. Thank you for your help.
     
  11. jon.mckinney

    jon.mckinney Bobtail Member

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    Your ECM is fried. Happened to me once at a dealership. Went in to get a bunk heater fixed. They didn't disconnect the batteries before they started to work on it and arced something somewhere pretty hard. Had to wait 2 days for a new ECM out of St. Louis.
     
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