OK little boy, go into a chicken coop and asked them to teach you how to run a log book, guess you don't have the smarts to do you it yourself, I have had e-logs go out and had to go to paper, Guess what? no VIOLATIONS, Before you comment you should learn more how it works
Landstar canceled me
Discussion in 'Landstar' started by nhramember, Feb 5, 2014.
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You know that is pretty uncalled for.exhausted379, Working Class Patriot, Joetro and 1 other person Thank this.
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No reason to get up in the air.
My point is simply that they can find a reason to get you with it.
I do not need to be told or instructed how to do log books.
This thread is basically bringing a big problem into the light of day. When a company puts in ELOGS and says they will send them at any time and then you find they are not there like this guy, it brings forth a problem.
If you notice, I am not defending the facts as to the log violation for the current day. I am addressing the issue of the previous 7 days.
The FMCSA claims that these logs can be faxed to the scales and dot officers when needed. We find now this is not true. So, when the driver goes in with no books thinking they can be faxed and this happens, going out to the truck is too late.
Maybe you will not be having the issue, but you might eat crow sometime when you have it fail and do the quick write up and have an accident that does not reflect the correct information.
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The way I see it the thing to do is when the log fails, you stop, start your paper log, and then send an email to the company which is going to be date and time stamped stating what happened and that you need your previous 8 days. That gives you something you can then print out and take into the scale even if you do not have your previous 8 in hand.
So if your log goes down at 6pm and the log dept closes at 5, you have your log you started at 6, and you have an email to them requesting the documentation and stating the time, date and location of the failure.
It is going to be very hard for DOT to put you oos for this, and it is going to be even harder for them to make it hold up in court if they write you a ticket because you have done everything at that juncture that you are capable of doing.
The OP did not start a paper log, even in his post it says he called the log dept AFTER the scale pulled him in.
As well had he done his due diligence he would have been able to fight the termination because the ball would have been in their court not his.
Additionally it is not about making a paper log match what was in the EOBR it is about getting the printout from the EOBR and having the paper log continue on where the EOBR left off. -
My thoughts are if a company is going to ELOGS, then they should be in the office 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. When you are on paper, this makes no difference. But with the elogs, the driver has no real idea as to the exact log.
In the event the office closes and qualcomm does go down, then it can get worse.
Yes, it is correct on the current day log. However, if the qualcomm was down, I think a phone call should have been made long before arriving at the scale.
In the event it died as he entered would make no difference in reality as far as the DOT is concerned. Both were no logs.
There are a great many issues.
A friend of mine had his go down and was able to get the information from his company quickly. I wonder what he will think, the next time I bring this one up so that it is in mind for future reference. -
The irony being landstar's log office closes at 5, they have god knows how many trucks, I am one of 6 trucks leased to the outfit I am running for, and I could get my logs from them 24/7/365Roadmedic Thanks this.
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Like I stated before I have never used them but all of this could be avoided if you printed of the log at the end of each day or at least could down load them to say a phone or I-pad. I know with a small company it isn't practical to have someone in the office 24/7.
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Or even snap a picture of the log display in case the unit goes down if it's possible. Just about everyone carries a phone capable of taking a picture.Last edited: Feb 8, 2014
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Kind of hard to imagine you can get yours, but a company with 8500 trucks closes at 5.
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I am not totally buying the whole story here, something sounds fishy to me. Probably will never know, but I suspect the real deal was the OP was close to home, and instead of worrying about getting his log in order just decided to head for the house. I don't think it quit at the scale, while possible, pretty improbable.
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