Class B CDL = lost cause?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by docluv5150, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. docluv5150

    docluv5150 Bobtail Member

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    Long story short: Left my FT job to go to the local Tech school for CDL training thinking that I could get my CDL and start an OTR career. Was WONDERFUL at backing, but then we got to shifting and I crumbled. Even after two days of practice, I still couldn't keep my clutch leg from trying to push the pedal through the floor and pissing off my instructor. That frustrated me, which only compounded the problems because then I started forcing the shifter into gear and pissing him off more. In order to not have the tuition money just thrown away, I'm getting transferred into the Class B program (trained on school buses with automatics) to at least get SOMETHING out of the school.

    After getting over the depression and panic of "OMG how in the world am I gonna make money with no Class A?" I started looking into jobs that would only require a Class B. Most of them require months to years of "recent verifiable experience driving a vehicle requiring a CDL." OK I'm up for a challenge and I'm all for paying dues. The wife is flat out NOT interested in getting her CDL so we can team. Reading through the Expediter forum kinda confuses me as to what opportunities are actually out there and what equipment is needed. I'm definitely not afraid of research and leg work, but do need at least a general direction through the information overload. I was hoping to eventually become an O/O. Is that still a viable option on the straight truck side as well?

    If it matters, we're gonna be relocating to the I-10 corridor of FL between Tallahassee and Pensacola. It seemed to be a decent hiring area for the starter companies.
     
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  3. sirstealth

    sirstealth Bobtail Member

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    You need to learn how to shift, that's pretty important.
     
  4. Criminey Jade

    Criminey Jade Road Train Member

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    I think the school could've worked with you on your shifting instead of just giving up on you. Your instructor was too impatient. Maybe he wasn't fully communicating what you needed to do. Nobody starts out intrinsically knowing how to double clutch and you have no guarantee of being in an automatic when you do hire on for a class B driving job. Don't let them keep you from learning how to shift whether you're going for your B or your A. Chances are good you will still need that skillset.
     
  5. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    If you train on an auto tranny and do the DMV road test, you will be restricted to autos only on your CDL. Not all busses are autos. )FYI). I would train further to learn a manual shift and have your class "A". Maybe a different instructor. I know I could train you to learn it. Mostly, it's a mental block. I'm being serious.
     
  6. jtk500

    jtk500 Bobtail Member

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    I had a blow up in school over the clutch break. I was stressed and the instructor had little patience. It was muscle memory from driving a manual car so long. It broke eventually and I even impressed the state trooper on the road test. He thought I had been driving tractor/trailer for awhile. It's frustrating. You just have to keep at it until you break your muscle memory. It reminds me of golf. If you swing like garbage for a long time it becomes hard to fix because of muscle memory.
     
  7. SHOJim

    SHOJim Road Train Member

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    I went to Roadmaster and got frustrated as hell with double clutching and the instructor got frustrated with me. I let him AND the double clutching get the best of me. I ended up getting class B instead of sticking it out. Biggest mistake I could have ever made. Good luck to you and hang in there!
     
  8. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Well it doesn't pay all that well but they're always looking for school bus drivers
    (the advertised hourly is often high, but the hours are short, 4-6 per day with a 5-6 hour break in the middle)

    Garbage trucks are B, pay can be good. Better to be the guy in the front of the truck than hanging off the rear.
    (I've yet to see a manual trash truck)

    Honey wagons, (septic trucks) will probably take rookies, heck they'll take anyone willing to do the work.

    Cream of the crop are the B-dumps. I don't think I've ever seen one of those that wasn't totally pimped out.
    Who knew gravel paid so well per mile?
     
  9. John Miles

    John Miles Medium Load Member

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    Depress clutch, place in neutral ... depress clutch, place in gear ... going down, throw a rev in between
     
  10. Aralakh

    Aralakh Bobtail Member

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    This is my 2 cents, but I'm not a trucker, just a CDL school student...

    Don't quit, keep it up so you can accomplish what YOU want to accomplish…don't let a bad instructor change your mind about what you want to do! How do I know he's bad? Because if he was getting "pissed off," he's a horrible teacher…might be a fantastic driver, himself, but if he can't teach without losing his patience in less than 2 days, he needs to quit teaching...

    I'm in school now, as I mentioned…we go out in groups of 3 with an instructor, and one of the guys I'm teamed up with still has some significant trouble shifting, and we're in our second week, today was day 7 of driving, and the instructor is still as patient as can be, doesn't get upset, doesn't berate the student…he TEACHES, as an instructor should.

    Sorry to hear that this instructor you have the misfortune of finding yourself with has failed to grasp the importance of effective communication as a necessary tool as a teacher, but man, don't quit, you may regret it.

    Best of luck
     
  11. docluv5150

    docluv5150 Bobtail Member

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    Point well taken, all of you. :) It still is my goal to master shifting and I know it can be done. I think this time it came down to 25+ year old equipment designed for people half my size and an instructor who had been through about 6 other students that day and probably was quite fed up with how we did. The next day I tried finding the sweet spot to stop the pedal and never could find it. After stopping the truck in a gear, I would hold the clutch mid way and try to change from 2nd to Reverse and back and it would grind every time until I just pushed it all the way and engaged the brake. The way I figured it, I had a window of about 1/2 inch in the 2 feet of pedal travel in which to stop the pedal so it wouldn't grind. Trying to hit that spot twice in a second with someone in the next seat saying "stay only 12 inches from the curb" in a tone just shy of yelling, well that was more than a little too much to ask of myself at the moment.

    Thanks for the info, definitely have some learning and searching to do.
     
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