My new experience with Gordon Trucking, post-buyout

Discussion in 'Gordon' started by DenaliDad, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. DenaliDad

    DenaliDad Retired Wheel Dog

    And let me write a sentence from the Order of Action that suspended the CDL privileges of my driver license:

    "As noted under Section II-B of this Form, pursuant to MCL 257.323 (3) this action is not appealable."

    My guess is if I spent the money to "talk to an attorney," she would tell me the same thing: the Order of Action is only appealable after the eligibility period (one year from now) on a 'legal issue' and not a matter of fact. Plus "no restricted privileges may be granted." As I've written elsewhere, the letter is the same one sent to those who are arrested and convicted of drunk driving. In fact, it starts by saying this:

    "Based upon your record of substance abuse convictions, you are presumed to be an habitual violator of the laws on substance abuse and driving and your license has been revoked and denied..."

    Pretty strong words, none of which apply to my case. Spending money on an attorney now makes no sense to me. And I know TVC's pitch tries to make it sound like a LEO would be afraid of that card. I wouldn't have been afraid of it either, but having the legal representation would have been nice, if not helpful. But I didn't and don't, so it's on to the next stage of my life, whatever that is.
     
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  3. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    If you're honestly doing 9 over in a construction zone, you deserve whatever the hell you get, former LEO or not (perhaps especially if you fall into that category).
     
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  4. tow614

    tow614 Road Train Member

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    I do agree... it was an honest error on my part since I had just entered the zone and was slowing down from 65 to the posted 45.. wasn't an attempt to fly through the zone. The trooper was set up at the beginning of the zone and there wasn't much traffic so I suspect he never had any intention of writing a ticket when he stopped me no matter who was driving since he could clearly see I was slowing down.

    In all honesty while I was a trooper I gave far more verbal warnings for speeding and other violations than I did tickets. I found this to be a much more effective way of getting peoples attention and built a positive image of law enforcement as well. If I had someone who had never had a traffic conviction before I would cut them some slack for minor speeding offenses. I must also add that we had a policy of never writing a ticket for less than 10 mph over the posted speed limit.

    In the course of ones driving career you are going to have those "oh crap" moments and slip up. The fact that I am now 57 years old and have made a living requiring me to be behind the wheel of a vehicle of some sort most of my life and have done so without ever getting a ticket or being involved in an accident that was my fault speaks volumes to my safe driving habits. That being said "nobody" is perfect and sometimes good people deserve a break...
     
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  5. DenaliDad

    DenaliDad Retired Wheel Dog

    I am living that moment right now. And it is not fun, especially when I think back to those 'If only I had...' moments that would have avoided this whole mess.
     
  6. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Speculative estimate from reading between the lines: he caused some property damage in a parking lot and was unable to find property owner but reported the incident to company. Unfortunately, he did not report the incident to the police. The state of Michigan sees it either as a hit & run or as a refused drug test.
     
  7. wonderdog24

    wonderdog24 Medium Load Member

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    He obviously had contact with the Police Dept..... He just needs to come clean n tell the truth.... He f'ed up..... We're safer with him off the road

    "Back in the beginning of February, I got a ticket from a Deputy Sheriff in Sweetwater County, Wyoming, near Green River. I paid the bail within a week, told the Safety department about it, as required, and put it out of my mind."
     
  8. chowick1966

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    Good luck DD sorry to hear all of this, hope things work out for you.
     
  9. DenaliDad

    DenaliDad Retired Wheel Dog

    Yup. "Tell the truth" of a very painful experience to a bunch of people I've never met, don't know, and who know nothing about the facts or the law in Michigan. Good idea. I'll 'come clean' and clear my soul.

    Not.

    As unsafe as I am, it's a good thing I'm off the road now for your sake. You can let your women and children drive again.
     
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  10. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    Oh, truth, schmuth. Chin up, Denali. You owe NO ONE here. You've shared this bad, bad news. I'm sure this has been, and is, a gut wrencher for you. Very, very sorry to hear of this misfortune.

    On the other hand, the Universe has its own way of shattering what we thought was important in order to push us into what really is. You're now part of that 99% who enter GTI orientation and 6 months later have already left with damaged pocketbook or damaged CDL, sometimes both, despite that you've more skills than most who went into orientation before you or since, trucking and otherwise.

    My bet is that this has more to do with a QC that goes off as soon as you stop, so you can't even pee in peace but that GTI wants an update, a PP (how appropriate!) or some other nonsense--micromanaged, as chowick says, so that as soon as you turn your key on in the morning the QC squawks at you, jockeying down the road at 62 turtle-miles per hour with a group of Swifties trying to pass you at 62-1/2 mph, passed by more trucks than you could imagine and having to brake going downhill... 'earning' a day off for every 7 out like you're a prisoner on release... pushed every day to use up all of your 11 and all of your 14, 'playing the game' so that a big chunk of your 10 goes to fueling, paperwork and other job functions so that you can use up ALL of your drive time, on-duty time...

    What's left? Dispatching, yard hostling, shipping and receiving, load brokering--if you want to utilize your trucking knowledge--who knows? I hope you let your story continue here.

    Note to nowonderdog: What I would like to say to you would get me in further trouble with the mods. Read my mind... please, read my mind.
     
  11. DenaliDad

    DenaliDad Retired Wheel Dog

    Actually, since my truck was governed at 60, the only time I ever saw 62 was going downhill. And I hated those 59-mph Swifties, especially on a 2-lane, 80-mph road in Arizona or Texas or Wyoming.

    More seriously, thanks for the kind words. This experience is BY FAR the worst of my life, and that isn't just a statement to make. It's not over yet, either. The CDL is suspended, but my auto insurance company hasn't learned about the suspension yet. I hope they don't but I am not confident.
     
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