Opening border to trucking good for trade

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  1. Cybergal

    Cybergal Road Train Member

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    Opening border to trucking good for trade
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  3. Truckerjo

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    What load of crap... the same goes for the companies down in Mexico so thier is no disadvantage.. Better for the economy? sure for the short term I can see that... Better for American truck drivers? heck NO.. Lower wages, roads full of non english speaking truck drivers, less fright for American drivers cause everybody will be brokering to Mexican trucks..

    Only people this is good for is large corporations period.. So, what if it may help the economy in the short run, noway does that out way the constant outsourcing of American jobs to lower wage forighn companies..
    Simple, fix the economy where our jobs stay HERE and stop outsourcing American jobs... Then the economy would be a lot better and more resilient...

    Better for a few companies??? is that worth 1000,s of others it will put out of buisness just to help that 1 ??????

    Same thing in that ""Ohio and Texas have differnt opinions on NAFTA"""
    Texas talks about booming Laredo and Ohio talks about lost jobs... Thats 1 city compared to 100's of cities that were completely devistaded do to NAFTA... these people who talk that NAFTA is a good thing, well its becuase they are getting paid millions cause thier stock in the corps they have will go up.. They are to benefit while American workers get lower wages... Sick of this trade/forighn labor is better for America....
     
  4. Skunk_Truck_2590

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    I agree with ya TruckerJo. There is more than plenty of meat and potato's in the U.S. I wonder where they come up with the crock of ####? They just want to do it because it's cheaper on them and the government because they are so greedy they found a way to do it cheaper than to pay an American trucker what they rightfully deserve. To hell with that! All that would do is hurt the economy even more in the long run because that put's more and more driver's out of job's do to illegal and very dangerous mexicans who can't even speak english much less read the road signs. Every slab of meat and stack of potato's comes to a complete stop my ###! Psshhh. Look at me. Now I'm even making the sound's of a truck! :biggrin_2559:

    If they would have kept job's in America instead of shipping them off across border's and over sea's this wouldn't even be an issue. Lady, where did you go to school? Where are you from? A stack of potato's? I thought it was a slab of beef and a "SACK" of potato's? Last time I saw potato's were loaded freely on the floor of a truck except when it make's it to the store in a sack or bag of chip's. I would like to add to the end of the sentence "uneducated bimbo" but I think that is againest the rule's so I'm only saying it in this sentence and not applying it to my last one because I "wanted" to say it but didn't think I was allowed to.:biggrin_25525:

    Seriously though. Where do these people get this #### from? I think this lady is more than a cheesebuger short of a happy meal to be thinking that. We've delievered a LOT of potato's that came no where near from Mexico. She need's to be snatched out of that job because to me, she not only made herself look like a complete moron but the company she work's for as well.
     
  5. Lurchgs

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    I'm not disagreeing with anybody here.. just want to clarify a couple things.

    1) she DID say "Sack" Of potatos (at least, in the quote at the top of this thread)

    2) She's not talking about meat/taters traveling around the US - she's talking about foodstuffs shipped to Mexico "Coming to a complete stop". Of course, if the ranchers/packers sold that meat here in the states.. the cost of beef (etc) would go down for the consumer. <Gasp> we can't have that, can we?

    3) it's my understanding that any Mexican truckers cleared for this silliness have to understand english - as in, read, write, and speak. It may not be conversational, but looking at this board, some of our own truckers seem to have problems in this regard.

    All in all, outsourcing over the boarder is just plain bad for the economy. It means more and more US dollars flowing out, into somebody else's economy (which is already largely propped up by immigrants sending cash to family members) and out of ours. I see zero benefit to anybody except the few companies who ship large quantities to Mexico. I certainly fail to see how it will help me, you, and the rest of the American consumers.
     
  6. Working Class Patriot

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    At least they're red-blooded Americans who deserve the privilege to drive in this country rather than the Mexican (note, I wrote MEXICAN and not Hispanic) drivers.

    I trust Bubba and Billy Bob any day over Juan or Julio to drive a rig safely. :yes2557:
     
  7. Working Class Patriot

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    I have Googled info on Mexican truck statistics. So far the only evidence is anecdotal and not pure facts. I do believe that the FMCSA and the NTSB have the statistical information and it is either not available or it is buried very deep in their archives. The crazy thing is that when I talk to dump truck brokers as of late who try to explain the virtues of Mexican truck drivers over Americans, I laugh at them and their "brain-washed logic". And of course they get offended since most of the brokers in SO-CAL are Hispanic, they think I am attacking Hispanics.
    I thought that if you were an American, you were to no longer consider yourself a Mexican or German or French or.....silly me, I guess I am not politically correct.
     
  8. Working Class Patriot

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    I suppose if the Mexican trucks are allowed to go across the country indiscriminately, I would suggest that anyone who observes or believes that they observe any violations no matter how minor, call their local Highway patrols with the full description of the vehicle in question. Mexico does not want American trucks down there and btw, why would we want to go down there in the first place? The last time I was there, the Mexican army was at the first toll booth outside of Puerto Nuevo pointing their &^%% Ar-15's at the Americans as a show of force.
     
  9. Shortcircuit27

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    Just my .02 but keep the Mexicans out. Last year there was an accident on I-80 which shut it down east bound between the 111 and 120 exits. Traffic was rerouted through Clearfield on US322. It's a heck of a hill with a nasty curve at the bottom.

    During that rerouting, an ILLEGAL MEXICAN driver who couldnt read signs missed the turn taking out 3 houses and crashed the truck into the basement of the 3rd house. 16+ hours to get him out. Luckily none of the occupants were hurt. When the authorities asked him what happened, he admitted he couldn't read the signs since they werent in his language.
     
  10. Truckerjo

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    2) She's not talking about meat/taters traveling around the US - she's talking about foodstuffs shipped to Mexico "Coming to a complete stop". Of course, if the ranchers/packers sold that meat here in the states.. the cost of beef (etc) would go down for the consumer. <Gasp> we can't have that, can we?

    Well what you fail to see here is she is talking about 1 way in this particular article how it would help.. It does not show the other 100's plus ways she also says it will help... The 100's of ways she talks about will put 1000's of American truckers out of jobs and lower the industries pay...

    This part here
    the cost of beef (etc) would go down for the consumer. <Gasp> we can't have that, can we?

    is the typical greedy responce most Americans have today.. Your willing to pay less so we can out source our jobs??? How about sucking it up and paying a little more to keep Americans working??? Thats what I would do, pay more to keep my "American" brothers working..

    So yes <gasp> go ahead and pay cheaper prices for 1 item.. but what happens is it just does not stay with "1" item it keeps on going onto more and more and more items... Thus ball keeps rolling onto other parts of the industry, contracting out to forighn labor.. Thus more and more American being forced to take lower paying jobs so you can save $1 on your steak


    3) it's my understanding that any Mexican truckers cleared for this silliness have to understand english - as in, read, write, and speak. It may not be conversational, but looking at this board, some of our own truckers seem to have problems in this regard.


    Do you really believe the American goverment really is going to enforce that??? After paying for 911 Spanish speaking operators, paying officers more that can speak Spanish, companies putting both english and Spanish on labels I could go on....

    What is it that makes you so blind to what is really happening????/
    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...-mexican-drivers-also-can-answer-spanish.html
     
  11. zig-zag

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    Don't buy into this fellow truckers. This is a trap. The FTA has already stated that they intend to have congress review a "antiquated" law, the interstate dryage law of 1937(?) They wish for congress to update this law. This is the law that was put into effect to prevent the Canadians from staying in the US and transporting freight from state to state with no need to go home. An anti-compete law. If the borders are opened with Mexico, then the congress gets rid of this law, then the Mexican trucks will be able to come up here with team operations and stay for extended periods of time with no need to go home. They will be able to do a tour of duty according to whatever their boss demands. Running from one state to the next, as opposed to coming here
     
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