Tell me about Volvos

Muleskinner, that website was good but it only said only a quarter to 1 mpg. Is that good? It did not say certain engines and I only saw DD, Cummins and Cat on there.

King

 

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Are you talking a 1/4 to 1 mpg increase with increased Horsepower?If you don't think thats good,you are beyond help. The reason mostly he talks about Cummins and Cat is there is really nothing else worth wasting your money on IMHO.

Look,I'm not sure any of us on here are understanding you or what info you're really after.You start out talking crap about Volvo safety over Paccar products which you miserably failed to back up.Then it turned to resale value which Volvo has 0.Then it turns into a weight issue which was a draw.Then you and D16 start the horsepower stuff.Let me help you there as best I can.Horsepower FREAKS consider anything under 850 hp to be weak and there are a few of them running 1000+ hp and running them daily ( Cats and Cummins ) and I'd be willing to bet you won't find one of those bad boys sitting down between a Volvos frame rails.Now you are on a mpg kick.If I may offer you a suggestion,get your cdl and go drive a while,ask around while you're out on the road,figure 50% of its a lie and cut that in half and divide that by +or-5 and you'll have all of your answers that you seek.

 

Can you Mule please share with us MPG on your backhoe with 1000hp?

 

Muleskinner,

I am a die hard Volvo fan and Paccar products. Due to the down turn of the industry, I am being forced to attend college and get captains college for driving a boat. When the industry gos back up, I will obtain my CDL.

My opinion is that Volvos are the safest Class 8 tractor out there. This makes them attractive for o/o's and large companies like Swift, Knight, and W/S. In addition, look at their safety testimonials and ask the people who drive them. Yes I love Petes as they are good looking but when you feel safe you need a good reptuable name and that name is Volvo.

King

 

Well said King.

 

Well I dunno here. Volvo is just another truck company in my opinion. Sure they have good and bad sides like everyone else. But safety? What defines safety? These (class 8) trucks are big baddies. If they hit something...that something is no longer...most of the time. If the moron driving it decides to off road and roll the truck...good chance of being unalive. These trucks dont have roll cages, or anything that I know of to help protect from the roof caving in and crushing its occupants.

As far as landing on its side...its outer shell is going to offer the protection as it slides. Impact is just relegated to the gizmos in the engine area between the driver and the accident. Whatever crushes helps slow the truck down. Im not sure how much you can improve on impact design safety.

Im not a fan of old school Petes (fuel econ wise)...but they are like my old Crown Vic. Built Like a friggen tank...can run through a brick wall and say "uh...what was that?" asit kept on going.

 

Ziggystyles,

Volvo is the only company to pass the Sweedish truck standards test. A 1 ton barrel is dropped and the frame barely bends. I guarantee you a Freightliner would not pass nor a KW or a Peterbilt. Go to their website and look at it.

King

 

Well now that you said it -Cats and Cummins are my prefers but over here the Horsepower kings are Scanias V8 , Volvos D16 (torque king as we speak) MAN V8 at 680 hp.
Scanias have been several souped up to 1000+hp.
The Marine Version is a 850hp Twin Turbo....

Muleskinner is right..the more Hp you have the better MPG you get because the hp/lbs ratios ain´t that great for a truck.
The Hp required to get "decent" (according to a 4-wheeler) mileage will be up to a level that no drivetrain can handle it.

 

FYI regarding Europeans Volvo has the weakest frames of them all.. Sisu has the toughest and Scania is the runner up.
Now American truck frames are 2/3´s of any europeans in thickness.
Also the cabins stay quite intact in a rollover too in European COE´s.