Adding 2 cycle oil in the fuel ???

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  1. Rawze

    Rawze Medium Load Member

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    I am a linux user,..Malware is for winblows users...

    Another victim of marketing and commercialism I see,...I am an engineer,..and a darn good one at that,,..and if you weren’t so quick in your response, you would have seen that I am in fact the author of that free book,...and that much research was put behind those words. What you fail to realize behind your brainwashed blindfold, is that 2-cycle engine oil IS IN FACT THE CHEMICAL REPLACEMENT in modern ULSD fuel, as the offset to the missing sulphur. The oil companies use ONLY ENOUGH TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM LUBRICITY STANDARDS, and many will quite often 'cut the batch thin', when blending mineral with bio products. The proper mix ratio to offset the missing sulphur is based on the rail pressure of the engine for exactly the reason you are disclaiming about the injectors. It is imperative that the lubricant be ash-less due to the EPA requirements regarding DPF filters, and oh, btw,...Power-Service Products ARE NOT ASH-LESS. Their fuel additive products have been known to contribute heavily, to DPF clogging in the newest SCR motors that contain smaller DPF filters, such as the newest cummins engines. Even diesel-kleen, when used too often, does this.

    I spent 3 weeks studying the effects of 2-cycle engine oil in a modern diesel engine, referencing many sources of information, because in europe, it is used heavily by car drivers, and has become popular there, as a tool to help older cars pass emissions testing. How do I know this?,...because I have spent many years travelig to/from there, driving cars there, and working with industrial machinery.


    Since we are on the subject,...the primary reason for the removal of sulphur in ULSD is because of the Diesel Oxidation Catalyst (DOC) on modern EPA compliant engines. At above 700 degrees, through the catalyst process, The sulphur combines with the small bit of oxygen left in the exhaust stream, creating sulphur-dioxide,...The gaseous versioon of Sulphuric Acid!,...Can anyone say Acid Rain?,...Rawze
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2013
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  3. TheDude1969

    TheDude1969 Heavy Load Member

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    Great post Rawze!
     
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  4. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    I run a mix of Power Service Silver and 2 cycle oil with no problems.
     
  5. Semi Crazy

    Semi Crazy Road Train Member

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    Why would you want to put an oil with anti-foaming agents through your fuel system?

    All that stuff in trans fluid isn't meant to be burned. It creates ash deposits. Not something I'd want to do if I already had a little genie tell me my injectors were dirty.
     
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  6. Dok2304

    Dok2304 Light Load Member

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    Try Marvel Mystery Oil. You're welcome.
     
  7. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Sulfur is not the lubricity substance in diesel. If that were the case, biodiesel would be loaded with it. But biodiesel has mega lubricity and barely enough sulfur to say it even has any. Lubricity factors in diesel got removed in the process of removing the sulfur. Lubricity had to be added back in to get back to minimum fuel standard levels.

    And that all begs the question, why would anyone even need to add something like 2 cycle oil, when biodiesel is in just about every major truck stop chain fuel nowadays. You can hardly ever pull up to a pump that doesn't have a sticker saying it has some bio in it. And just a 2% biodiesel blend will raise the lubricity to pre-ULSD levels. A 5% blend will raise the lubricity to pre-LSD levels... back to the good old days levels. And it doesn't have to be added into the tank, bought separately, or even cost extra. it is part of the fuel at the pump in most locations now.

    Secondly, unless one is running some very old equipment, fuel systems have been designed around lower lubricity fuel for quite a while now. Seems folks are getting locked into a "got to have more lubricity" mindset that is not justified by any appreciable data out in the real world. But, if you want to separate yourself from more of your money, then have at it.
     
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  8. Cricket Man

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    I think 2 cycle will add carbon deposits in your valves, inyectors and piston rings
     
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