Euro O/O's allowed to drive in US?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Donati, Apr 1, 2008.

  1. Donati

    Donati Bobtail Member

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    Hey, new member here :)
    Im' an owner - operator in Denmark.
    I have a question on US trucking laws for you guys.. are European o/o's allowed to drive in the US? ship-containers for an American broker, in this case.. for a limited time-period, or unlimited?
    In Europe this type of driving, in another country than the company is registred, is called "Carbotage".. i have no idea if thats an English word?
     
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  3. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    I DO NOT KNOW:biggrin_2551:

    I tried to research but couldn't find anything. I would google your countries trucking regulations and give me a link when you find it :).
     
  4. heyns57

    heyns57 Road Train Member

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    The U.S. has cabotage with Canada and Mexico. License fees are prorated between the states and provinces, fuel taxes are paid to one state and forwarded to other states and provinces according to mileage operated. When a foreign truck enters the states, its activities are highly restricted by law, but enforcement is problematical.

    3. Key Principles Relating to Cabotage.
    $ Drivers may be admitted to deliver or pick-up cargo traveling in the stream of
    international commerce.
    $ Drivers may not engage in point-to-point hauling within the U.S.
    $ Drivers may not engage in any activity that qualifies as local labor for hire.
    4. INS Regulations. Canadian-based drivers may transport goods or passengers to the
    U.S. from Canada if all goods or passengers to be delivered were loaded in Canada.
    Likewise, Canadian-based drivers may load and transport goods or passengers from the
    U.S. to Canada provided no unloading occurs in the U.S. They may also load goods or
    passengers at various locations in the U.S. only if all goods and passengers will be
    unloaded in a foreign country.
    Purely domestic service (point-to-point within the U.S.) is not permitted.
    Solicitation, in competition with U.S. operators, is not permitted. This means that a
    Canadian-based driver cannot solicit a return load for delivery to Canada while in the
    U.S. Any return load must be pre-arranged.

    Conflicts Involving U.S. Customs and INS Regulations
    U.S. Customs regulations allow for Canadian-based vehicles to transport domestic shipments
    (point-to-point in the U.S.) when the shipment is incidental to the immediate prior or subsequent
    engagement of the vehicle in an international movement. INS regulations do not allow a
    Canadian-based driver to pick up a shipment at a U.S. location for delivery to another U.S.
    location. It should be noted that the U.S. Customs regulations provide that the Canadian-based
    driver must be in compliance with the applicable INS regulations to operate a vehicle in this type
    of move. Because the INS regulation prohibits this type of move, in effect, the U.S. Customs
    regulation is moot at the present time.
    U.S. Customs regulations do not consider the repositioning of any empty trailers domestic
    transportation and allow Canadian-based drivers to execute such movements. INS regulations
    prohibit Canadian-based drivers from repositioning empty trailers unless the driver either entered
    with or departed with that trailer.

    For questions on the regulations, contact the U.S Customs Service, Office
    of Regulations and Rulings, 202-927-1327 or Immigration and Naturalization Service, Office
    of Inspections, 202-514-3019. You may also contact them through the link to their website
    below.
    www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/index.htm
    www.customs.treas.gov
     
  5. Donati

    Donati Bobtail Member

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    Thanks alot.
    So shipping over my Euro-truck, is not the way im going to experience US trucking :)

    Next question then;
    What is required to set up as an o/o in the States?
    Do i need specific permits, completed courses, or something else?
    Im guessing i cant just buy a tractor, insure it, and then start hauling shipping-containers?

    Just for your info, should you be curious.. in Denmark the requirements are:
    1. You must complete a "Owner-Operator" course, wich takes 3 weeks.
    2. A clean criminal-record.
    3. You must not owe the government more than $10000,- (owerdue taxes, child-support, traffic tickets, etc..)
    4. Proof of owning $30000,- to start the business from.

    Then you can get the permit needed, to be an o/o.

    Thank you for any answers :)
    Mvh. Finn Donati
     
  6. MickeyFIN

    MickeyFIN Light Load Member

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    Good post.. I´m also looking at this.

    You need a US-CDL for starters,,, HaZMat is not bad to have either.. and the equipment.
    Others fill us in here please.
     
  7. Donati

    Donati Bobtail Member

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    > MickeyFIN said:

    > You need a US-CDL for starters,,, HaZMat is not bad to have either..

    What are these?

    > I´m also looking at this.

    Do you have connection to a "spedition" company? or what are your plans, regarding what you'd be haulin?

    Mvh. Finn
     
  8. MickeyFIN

    MickeyFIN Light Load Member

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    No I don´t have but Mainly looking for a O/O position pulling cars and boats and Reefers if this all someday turns better.

    On the other hand I would also like to take a Australian specced American COE over here and tune it up a bit... also as a advertising truck for my Dyno Garage
     
  9. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The US doesn't have financial entry requirements, but I can't see the process of getting legal to work in the US for a limited amount of time is financially smart. Isn't the process to get a green card or work visa costly and time consuming?
    And then add to the fact that container haulers do not make much money. They tend to be on the lower end of the pay scale.

    I can't see where it makes any financial sense at all. If you are looking for a vacation in the US just come over and spend your vacation dollars and then go home to make money.

    Another thing, now isn't the time to be looking to milk the USA cow. With the price of fuel so high, the freight rates so low and the slow economy there isn't enough work for the guys already here. O/Os are going broke by the hundreds every week. (if the trucking mags are to be believed)
     
  10. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Hauling outside the cabotage laws happens a lot. I've seen it happen several times, and I'm certain that a lot more goes on than what we see.
     
  11. heyns57

    heyns57 Road Train Member

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    Importing your Euro truck only complicates the situation. Perhaps, you could follow the example of two Scandinavian men who are now driving a 2005 Freightliner for Werner Transportation. They keep a diary and photo album, but I am not sure that our monitors will allow me to post the link. I do not know whether they own the Freightliner. Their photos are like a travelogue of the continental 48 states. No cabotage is involved.

    http://diesel48.com/index.html

    The employment of immigrant drivers is controversial in the U.S., especially during a recession. It is done every day, but not always legally. You will need a work permit or "green card".

    The most important thing to understand with the H1B visa / work permit is that only the employer can apply for the visa, and the the visa is issued for a particular employee. If you are an individual hoping to work in the USA, you cannot apply for anH1B visa by yourself. This means you Must find an 'H1B job' with a company that will sponsor (apply) for you.

    To Qualify for the H1B Visa Program, you must work in a 'specialty occupation':
    The core Specialty Occupations include: IT, Computing, Finance, Accounting, Banking, Marketing, Advertising, PR, Sales, Recruiting, Engineering (all types), Teaching, HealthCare/Medical, Legal, Lawyers, Networking, Telecoms, Business, Management.

    http://www.h1base.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=3&info=2
     
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