New horizons with Holland Enterprises (Fargo,ND)

chowick1966 · Apr 12, 2014

socal said: ↑

Those multi drop loads are killing your average. I figure you are averaging barely over 400 miles day. Staying out multiple weeks at a time should be able to hit 3200 miles a week minimum over 7 days. Sounds like you guys are running ltl's at a truckload rate.

ltl reefer should be good for .40 cents a mile to start and $20 a drop minimum.
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It's $25 extra per drop and this is the first multi stop load I have done, I dont think its that regular of a thing. I have had more multi drop with other companies. Gordon for one!!

chowick1966 · Apr 12, 2014

wonderdog24 said: ↑

Hey Chow, I will give you 3500 miles a week for 30cpm... More Miles n More money.... Even if the cpm is less.... Let me know
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Thanks but no. I am doing good on what I have thanks.

Gazoo64 · Apr 13, 2014

I had the little brother in blue call me. Are Great Plains and Holland about the same when it comes to pay and benefits?

Balakov100 · Apr 13, 2014

They changed my Stops and my route.

Had me on 80 instead now.
Good thing I busted my ### yesterday. Parked at the TA just past Cheyenne.

Snowing in Wyoming they have some chain laws up for 80.
Also Cheyenne to Laramie was closed last time I checked.

Think it supposed to switch back rain around Kearney.

MACK E-6 · Apr 13, 2014

beerslave said: ↑

Third day on the road and they are already telling me I have to drive over my hours. Just pulled off and my 14 hour turned into a 15.5 hour. Not good.
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Are you local? Do you start and end at the same place every day? If so then that is in fact legal to do, as long as it's once per period without having any violations the previous period.

beerslave said: ↑

They pulled the "safe haven" driving so I could pickup a load. I told them it wasn't legal and was basically told if I had a problem with it, to call safety on Monday.
on the brighter side, got my next load. Puts me at 3700 miles for 7 days 12 hours.
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If you already did it once that period, then you simply tell whatever idiot you're dealing with that they have a decision to make. And that decision would consist either of someone else picking up the load, or someone coming and picking you up after you get the load.

I had to do that myself with the know-nothings in our office.

beerslave said: ↑

After cooling down about it, I don't think it was done with intent, just a dispatcher thinking she knows something when she doesn't. I'll call safety on Monday and explain the situation. What sucks, my P Pass doesn't work so I get to be pulled into every scale with this messed up log.
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That sounds like this dispatcher dismissed your trying to inform her of what she should already know as some sort of attempt at getting out of work. Our safety dept WILL back a driver in this type of situation, and WILL get HR involved if a dispatcher, or even a TM wants to threaten a driver for operating within the law.

What you also have here is a case of the letter of the law conflicting with the intent. Sometimes that happens, but when it does letter of the law takes precedent. Know it, and use it to your advantage when you can.

CondoCruiser · Apr 13, 2014

There's no such thing as Safe Haven driving. There is adverse driving conditions like an unexpected storm popped up and shut you down. Then you can continue on 2 hours if it's within your 14. Known storms don't count because one didn't trip plan and check the weather. Call safety and have them set her straight. By all means don't give in to coercion. They can't penalize you but DOT can if you give in. The moment you do your are just as guilty.

395.1 (b) Driving conditions(1) Adverse driving conditions. Except as provided in paragraph (h)(2) of this section, a driver who encounters adverse driving conditions, as defined in § 395.2, and cannot, because of those conditions, safely complete the run within the maximum driving time permitted by §§ 395.3(a) or 395.5(a) may drive and be permitted or required to drive a commercial motor vehicle for not more than 2 additional hours beyond the maximum time allowed under §§ 395.3(a) or 395.5(a) to complete that run or to reach a place offering safety for the occupants of the commercial motor vehicle and security for the commercial motor vehicle and its cargo.
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Question 3: May a driver use the adverse driving conditions exception if he/she has accumulated driving time and on-duty (not driving) time, that would put the driver over 15 hours or over 70 hours in 8 consecutive days?
Guidance: No. The adverse driving conditions exception applies only to the 10-hour rule.
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Question 4: Are there allowances made in the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs) for delays caused by loading and unloading?
Guidance: No. Although the regulations do make some allowances for unforeseen contingencies such as in §395.1(b), adverse driving conditions, and §395.1(b)(2), emergency conditions, loading and unloading delays are not covered by these sections.
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Question 5: How may a driver utilize the adverse driving conditions exception or the emergency conditions exception as found in §395.1(b), to preclude an hours of service violation?Guidance:
An absolute prerequisite for any such claim must be that the trip involved is one which could normally and reasonably have been completed without a violation and that the unforeseen event occurred after the driver began the trip.
Drivers who are dispatched after the motor carrier has been notified or should have known of adverse driving conditions are not eligible for the two hours additional driving time provided for under §395.1(b), adverse driving conditions. The term in any emergency shall not be construed as encompassing such situations as a drivers desire to get home, shippers demands, market declines, shortage of drivers, or mechanical failures.
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http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/part/395?guidance

Balakov100 · Apr 14, 2014

Fun times yesterday.

Practically Blizzard Conditions from Lexington to Kearney.
Snow/Ice Packed road.
Lots of wrecks, they ended up closing WB Side at Kearney.
Walmart Truck blocking the whole WB Side.

After that it was ok, but really didn't switch to Rain until almost Lincoln.

beerslave · Apr 14, 2014

Balakov100 said: ↑

Fun times yesterday.

Practically Blizzard Conditions from Lexington to Kearney.
Snow/Ice Packed road.
Lots of wrecks, they ended up closing WB Side at Kearney.
Walmart Truck blocking the whole WB Side.

After that it was ok, but really didn't switch to Rain until almost Lincoln.
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I would have parked it without a second thought.
Walmart? Those guys get paid for sitting in bad conditions, no reason for that.

Inspector Gadget · Apr 14, 2014

Does Holland have many customers in or around Springfield Mo.?

TexTrucker · Apr 16, 2014

Did we lose the OP here lol. According to the hiring map on the website, we only hire from the east side of MO. Couldn't hurt to call and talk to Denzel though and ask.

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