Did the same thing myself TSP....learned on the farm driving a milk tanker as a teen. Went on to drive for 2 companies....a west coast operation for a couple of years then with GSF for the next 33 years. Did it without any "formal" training and not a single accident either....This was however back in the 60's too...different times back then.
Who needs trucking school.
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Good point!gpsman said: ↑"The self taught man seldom knows anything accurately, and he does not know a tenth as much as he could have known if he had worked under teachers, and besides, he brags, and is the means of fooling other thoughtless people into going and doing as he himself has done." -Twain
Without training you have little to nothing as a basis for evaluating the quality of your OJT. A truck driver is not necessarily a "teacher". "Experience" means exactly "squat". The experienced may have been getting away with doing it wrong for 20 years, and the positive feedback just keeps on coming, until it stops.
Formal training comes in handy for insurance purposes. Without formal training your employment options become very limited.Click to expand...gpsman Thanks this. -
Tonythetruckerdude said: ↑gpsman said:Well, that's among the things you can learn at trucking school, the general tendency is to measure driving performance by absence of wrecks (and/or tickets), which are among the absolute lowest standards.Well, how hard is it to not crash...?So in essence you're saying that a driver who logs over 3 million safe , accident free miles over a 3o year career is not at the top of his/her game.... just what is your definition of learning the right way....a driver who does that , not only is he/she at the very pinnacle of this industry..they are the one that the standards should be/are set by. gpsman you're way , way off the point here. How could the absence of accidents over almost any period of time be considered a low standard......Click to expand...
One can drive like a moron their entire life and never be involved in a crash via dumb luck, and at least part of the achievement is dependent on others not accidenting into them.
The vast majority of OTR miles are accrued on roadways upon which the fewest crashes occur, limited access highways.Click to expand...Click to expand... -
A awful weak argument gpsman. Even with your limited experience you know much better than that. It takes the correct attitude , plenty of patience , and the ability to recognize potential bad situations and be proactive in your actions behind the wheel to not be involved in an accident.
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gpsman said:One can drive like a moron their entire life and never be involved in a crash via dumb luck, and at least part of the achievement is dependent on others not accidenting into them.That is one of the silliest and most UN-informed statements I've seen on this forum......Click to expand...Click to expand...superpet39 and gpsman Thank this.
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Tonythetruckerdude said: ↑gpsman said:One can drive like a moron their entire life and never be involved in a crash via dumb luck, and at least part of the achievement is dependent on others not accidenting into them.Your rebuttal is missing. I don't understand why you just didn't edit your previous post if all you had to add was an appeal to ridicule.That is one of the silliest and most UN-informed statements I've seen on this forum......Click to expand...Click to expand...Click to expand...
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I'll grant you that schools could be much better and self taught is not far behind. I would say that going without school and learning by someone else all depends on how much that other driver knows. Schools are now the best way to go simply because of insurance reasons. Every once in awhile there comes along a school that starts the driver in the right direction. But most teach how to get a CDL and that's all they care about. I personally did not go to school because they didn't have them when I started. But I was taught by a group of drivers that had many years hauling gasoline and they made sure that I did not embarrass them or give them a bad name. In other words they all watched me like a Hawk and taught me the right way which turned out to be just like the Smith System of today. But those days are gone and there's no more head slapping. So schools are in the best interest of the driver if they want to go on to be successful. When I say successful I mean you retire with a proud record and plenty of cash to live the way you want to.
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But how hard is it? Guys loaded up on weed, whites and wine managed to not crash, probably some still doing it.Tonythetruckerdude said: ↑A awful weak argument gpsman. Even with your limited experience you know much better than that. It takes the correct attitude , plenty of patience , and the ability to recognize potential bad situations and be proactive in your actions behind the wheel to not be involved in an accident.Click to expand...
Rookies manage to not crash straight out of the box, most of those do their 6 months or a year w/o crashing.
Can we not assume most OTR drivers on the road today have 1 crash or fewer...?
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Highway Hypnosis said: ↑cabwrecker....

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Wow. Talk about being sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fired!Last edited by a moderator: May 9, 2015
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