Does Schneider pay practical miles? Do they pay per diem?

Discussion in 'Schneider' started by tbrown_sd, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    Also per diem is claimed anytime you are more than 100 miles from the house at work. Companies only pay when youre driving. Example a load is 1000 miles company pays xxx at end of load you sit away from home and do restart company pays zero for per diem if you claim per diem at tax time you get to claim 57 dollars even for days doing nothing as long as not at home.
     
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  3. bigdogpile

    bigdogpile Road Train Member

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    Yea, that's right, how are you gonna get your 7 cpm per diem,when you sit over the weekend at a shipper ? It cant be any clearer,say no to company PD !!!!!!!!!
     
  4. Ubu

    Ubu Road Train Member

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    When you work for a company that is paying per diem you can still clam per diem at the end of the year so you can get the benefit of time spent just sitting away from home but you have to deduct any per diem that you were paid by the company over the year.

    A company paying per diem is just giving you part of your own tax benefit early. They do this because it benefits them, not you.
     
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  5. Dryver

    Dryver Road Train Member

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    +1 Ubu. It is in the drivers best interest not to take the per diem as part of his pay but to claim it in your taxes at the end of the year. Companies may try to tell you that their per diem pay systems are better for the driver but they are not. The mega fleets are in it for the profit $$$ not for the best interests of driver 2874932 driving truck 556283. Try to convince yourself 'Its like a family working here" but you don't eat at the same dinner table as the CEO & CFO, that invite got lost in the mail.
     
  6. Jabber1990

    Jabber1990 Road Train Member

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    it does benefit you, its basicly extra money

    i've been told its used for living expenses, so basicly you're being paid by the government to buy that hot dog, or use that shower
     
  7. mickeyrat

    mickeyrat Road Train Member

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    No it isnt extra money. IN fact its 2 cents less money per mile at the end of it all. For what I ran, that 2 cents equates to $2000 a year. Paid BACK to my company for what?

    Front end a new driver sees a better check. But as has been stated above thats only for miles driven. when sitting for a reset or whatever reason such as breakdown etc, you get squat from your company. a driver is better served claiming this all on their own. Tough it out til the raises start coming. Best advice based on my experience.
    I suggest keeping a diary for days out on a calender or something. Be easier to calculate them t the end of the year as opposed to going through a years worth of logs.
    BTW all, from what I remember , total wages are considered when it comes to SS. I noticed the different total between taxable gross income and SS wages first year I started driving and did my taxes for it.
     
  8. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    A company paying per diem saves money on the ss match tax match and workers comp. If your on per diem and get hurt you get less from comp. They pay based on your salary and its less on per diem
     
  9. tbrown_sd

    tbrown_sd Light Load Member

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    Jabber1990: secondly why would you turn down per diem?

    See the above! IMHO the trucking companies have found a way to "help" their drivers by first helping themselves NOT pay taxes and Social Security. I'll at least give a nod to the companies that don't force per diem after a certain period of time!

    Edit: Sorry, this didn't end up where I thought it would in response to your post.
     
  10. Bigfoot3638

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    I am not a driver but my son drives for Schneider, I read comments on these forums but have never responded until now. I see a lot of misinformation about per diem on this thread. Schneider puts out a pamphlet called "Tax Time Made Easy" and it explains using per diem vs not. I suggest if you are thinking about going to per diem read this pamphlet. Schneider does not pay per diem. I've done my sons taxes the last two years, he switched over to the per diem method last year. If you are not on the per diem plan a % of your pay is not taxable. If you are on per diem all of your pay is taxable. You must itemize your deductions if you are on per diem. You can deduct most of your expenses when you itemize, you must keep all your receipts. (consult the phamphlet about things you can deduct) You can deduct $59 for full days away from home, this is for meals only. ($65 for out of the country) I remember seeing a comment about a 100 mile rule, but this is incorrect, you have to be away from home overnight. Partial days away from home are $44.25 a day. There is also an 80% limitation on the total of your meal deductions. You do not have to keep meal receipts. If you're away from home a lot, per diem may be the way to go, my son had 330 days on the road last year so per diem was the best way for him. I don't claim to be a tax expert, so check out all this information yourself.
     
  11. CondoCruiser

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    You have to consider they remove that non-taxable about from your gross income. As a result the companies pay less on your 401K match. They pay less into Medicare and Social Security. If you get hurt your workers comp is reduced. If you get disabled your disability is reduced. I can contest for that as I had to use my short and long term disability. I paid for a $1500 month policy at the time of purchase we were told that is the amount we would draw. When it come down to it because per diem knocked down my yearly gross my monthly benefit was reduced $150 a month. Apply for any loan they will look at your yearly gross. They will not see the non-taxable money hidden by per diem.

    There are so many negatives to it you are better off waiting until tax time. It all comes out in the wash either way. It's just one way you suffer some benefits. Companies push it because it saves them thousands if not millions in the matches they have to pay. It's a smart move on their part at the expense of the driver. Back to that recruiter painting a false picture to you so they get what they want.
     
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