so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

You guys think it's a joke? Why is OOIDA fighting so hard to keep them out of trucks? That's because they have a lawyer or two who knows what will more than likely happen in the event of an accident. You or I will be tried and convicted on the spot.
It's about liability folks and who will get stuck with the bill.
And a few attack the messenger I'm used to that quite a few men dealt with that a long time ago only to prove they were right.
1-800-444-5791 is the number to OOIDA from the religious point of view they would probably have no comment but liability they sure as hell would.

 

A few posts where quite narrow minded after mines even attacked me, fine if that's what rocks your world go ahead have at it.
I came up with a question that rocked the CB Radio airwaves that made a driver so mad I could just feel the anger come through the speaker it was quite a funny thing to hear after I proposed this question right here in the good ol USA...
It went something like this.... "Ladies and gentlemen I have a few questions I'd like for you to ponder for the rest of the day... Are you afraid of your government local, state, federal and if so what are you going to do about it???"
Now when I threw that rock out there one driver apparently brainwashed like a few drivers who attacked me I won't say any names of course you can or should know whom I speak of but that's the way some people are when they have to face it and man up and deal with a government that has gotten too big for its britches.
What some people don't understand is that our government is like non other unique in every way compared to other countries in which we have a thing known as voting and or our input also known as majority rule and since this effects only the transportation sector then input is only required by drivers but in this case e logs were rammed down our throats with little to no input and tell me how do they improve safety since everyone's sleep requirements are different along with sleep patterns?
Some people sleep in the day most sleep at night.
If you really look at the logs you will find that it pushes your clock out of its normal patterns forcing you to drive at night when you may not be a night runner or vice-versa.
If e logs are so safe explain why the accident rates have jumped as drivers try to beat the clock.
And with the new mandate of having all trucks at the same speed that too will cause tension in this industry among drivers and the public.
Some of you have been brainwashed into believing that the government sure does take good care of its citizens and that our servants know what is best for us but one day you'll see people like me were right.
I too smell fear, from drivers who have been castrated by money and power and are just too darn lazy to do anything about the snake that just moved into their backyards. "Honey there's a huge 30 foot snake in the backyard " Don't worry dear he won't do anything to me" "But honey he's got one of the kids wrapped around the throat" "He"s just playing leave em alone" "OK dear since you are the man of the house"
Now the guy I just compared some of you to, what's wrong with this guy?
I'll tell ya what's wrong with him he's a reflection of many drivers in this industry and for his wife to call him the man of the house??? Is beyond hilarious!!!

 

From which direction?

 

Here's what Dart safety department says to all its drivers, you cannot move that trick under any circumstances while on break period end of discussion. OK so while you are on break no shower no food and you need to move away from the dock to the street because the customer is always right you do BUT you don't trigger the box on your end but guess what they can see it.
And so you go down the road and well a car jumped in front of you his fault 5 witnesses and so you get called in to the office and told to turn in the keys and then they show you violated HOS when you moved that truck and you say you didn't violate the law still won't do you any good because you did violate the law.
I did not have an accident while at Dart but I did go around and around with them over the phone over an issue of moving to accommodate a customer and what they said was we can see that you moved the truck I said I didn't trigger the box but it didn't matter I moved the truck period end of discussion it's the law rules regs.
While running down the road one night I just beat the clock to find a parking space or so I thought, I went over by 30 seconds and yep that box clocked it but it didn't show up on my end.
These are the things that will come back to bite your head off one day and like they say kill one scare a thousand drivers, Why? I'll let you answer that question as you are looking at the man in the mirror.
Think you are gonna just pop those lips off because your fleet management made you mad? They got you by the sack!
Think you are going to get the last word in a workman's comp case, nope they fired you last week and don't know why you are still driving their truck. ( The latter is a short clip from a true story more on that later).
In short you drivers just need to sit back and look at this from the seat of a CEO And that's what you are dealing with!
If you owned a company and we'll with all these boys buying public officials you probably won't even be able to have a shoe shine shop but again more on that later different thread different day back on subject...
If you owned ran a corporation what would you do to protect it? Would you lie cheat steal??? The answer is probably yes and especially if the money is there. They can manipulate the data in the boxes and a few seconds here a few minutes there and you are shark bait. Any computer can be hacked by anyone at anytime if you have the right information.
The FMCSA is a front for the trucking companies to insure that the large stay large and the little boys go under and my fellow driver that means you too are in the later group.
The bus runs over you not the CEO not the large corporations not the government! YOU little man will pay out a majority in a lawsuit and no you can't declare bankruptcy you will pay for that poor woman you hit for the rest of your life, you will pay installments a very long time too after you lose your car your house and the shirt off your back and so you better get busy and start hiding your property NOW!!!

 

Im not sure if your nuttier than squirrel #### or a genius because im having a little trouble following your long winded posts, but as I have said before all these mandates are nothing more than a small group of people capitalizing off an easy targeted industry in the name of safety. I like my freedom and hate is as much as you do but unfortunately no one is going to stop it.

 

Oh, and yes moving your truck into or out of a parking spot counts again your drive time too not just riding down the road. And so you think you will be better off with e logs??? You better think again... What you see and what the system truly sees is apples and oranges and don't tell us you hire some high dollar lawyer he will sell you out in a heartbeat it's been done too many times. I have a friend that just got sold out by her lawyer because she refused to take the breathalyzer test. She took her case to another lawyer and told her to get her money back and come see him because the first lawyer just sat in the courtroom and did very little if anything.

 

Oh ok then....

So, How do we remedy such small nitpicking regulations that,According to you, Will be enforced??


Double Our Freight Rates Then..Whadda ya Think?

$2.50 per mile freight just Ballooned to $5 per mile

$3 per mile freight just did a Bunny Hop to $6 per Mile

$1.20 Per Mile cheap,Broker Freight Just Cannonballed to $2.40 per Mile


Get It yet? Play With us(The men with the capacity).. We'll play with you Right Back

 

But all this "you can't move your truck while on break" is from the carriers, not the FMCSA. FMCSA still allows everything that is in the regulations now, including personal conveyance, which is commonly referred to as Off Duty Driving. True, a carrier can mandate whatever it wants, including only a 5 hr drive time before a break, but that is purely the carrier. I often use my truck to go get a bite, go get a shower, head over to a local walmart and restock my fridge, whatever while on a 10 hr break and on e-logs. How it that possible? Because the FMCSA regulations allow it and the carrier I am with is not managed by paranoid schizophrenic children.

Mandated e-logs may be one thing, but the real problem will be the carrier that one is tied in with. At least that one can be remedied by moving to another carrier.

Oh, and is what I am doing illegal is some way and a risk of being put OOS? Well, I have been stopped and checked twice, once in K.C. and once in Des Moines. There has never been an issue. Went on my way. The guy in K.C. looked like he didn't have a clue one could do this, but he called in to whomever he gets his guidance from and they confirmed I could use the truck for personal conveyance as long as I did not have a load, and was not going to pick one up, or under a dispatch of some sort.

 

However...

The intersection between the ideal unreality of the HOS regulations, and the hard reality of the road are buffered quite a bit by the paper logbook. 20 minutes over on your 11 hunting for a parking spot? No problem! Just make it look right when you put pen to paper. Not so much with the elog... and in fact you need to adhere to the reg, starting that process earlier so that it cuts into your drive-time production.

Considering the current bent of the FMCSA on absolute adherence to the regulation, I'm not betting on them bringing a dose of reality into it anytime soon. The saving grace here is (so far) 98% of the flatfeet get that glazed-over deer-in-the-headlights look when you shove a QualCom terminal in their face. The last time I had a level II, the officer asked me to retrieve my numbers for the 11, 14 and 70-hour clocks from the terminal, and bring them in so he could record the data in his report.

 

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