Working for two companies and running two logs?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Strobe, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. Strobe

    Strobe Bobtail Member

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    Hi all,

    I currently work in the oilfield on a 3 week on 2 week off rotation under an oilfield exemption permit. I've recently been given an opportunity to drive for another company on my two weeks off. The problem is, to be HOS compliant in Canada I'd need a 72 hour reset after my 3 week hitch, and another 72 hour reset just before my next three week hitch. This pretty much cuts it down to only a week of driving for company B.

    What are the dangers associated with running two different logs for the two different companies as if they were my sole employer?

    Thanks.
     
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  3. zip912

    zip912 Bobtail Member

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    I do it....Nobody has to know anything.. Make it while you can..
     
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  4. bigdogpile

    bigdogpile Road Train Member

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    Very,very,illegal and penalties are steep if you get caught...ALL hours must be documented,if driving for one company or one hundred..But if your gonna break the law and risk fines and jail time,do it right and sell or transport large quantities of drugs..Or do some home invasion take overs..
     
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  5. sapamil

    sapamil Medium Load Member

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    why would you advertise even the thought of doing something so stupid and illegal if you want to take a chance of ruining your livelihood I would keep it to yourself and not advertise it but be prepared to shell out large sums of money if you do so
     
  6. Oaker

    Oaker Medium Load Member

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    That's leaving a very big door for the DOT to walk through and into your life.

    One mistake is all it would take... everything is then open to review.

    By the way... I believe it to be a federal offence, violating your HOS.

    It's your career...but in the end, we'll all end up paying dues for this type of activity.
     
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  7. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    I am going to assume you have read your permit and there is specific language that requires you to have 72 hours off-duty before driving under that permit. If not, there is nothing in the Canadian HOS requiring you to take 72 hours off before driving under "OIL WELL SERVICE VEHICLE PERMITS." (NSC Standard 9 sec. 63)

    You are required to have 72 hours off-duty after driving under such a permit.
    (Sections 24 to 29 and 49 to 54 are the regulations concerning Cycles above and below 60 degrees latitude, respectively)

    If Company B is inter-provincial (federal regs.), then you would accumulate hours according to the cycle they have you running on (most likely Cycle 1, 70/7). If so, 36 hours off-duty should suffice if you need to reset your clock before driving under the permit. Again, this may be moot if the permit you are driving under specifically requires you to have 72 hours off-duty before driving / on-duty.
    If Company B is a provincial-only carrier, and/or you are eligible for the 160 km exception, then it could be altogether different also.

    BTW, if you find a second job with a company that is not a carrier, then you do not have to record that time and it is all considered off-duty insofar as your primary employer is concerned.

    A world of hurt; possible loss of job(s), or worse. (That was really a troll question, wasn't it?)
     
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  8. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Of course, there is this option. ;)
     
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