over length question

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  1. shellhart

    shellhart Light Load Member

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    My company is about to get into hauling 60 foot I beams on a 53' spread. I know they are going to go over everything with the driver's but I want to get a head start on it. What all will I need for that length? I know I won't need an escort but are they permit load? Will I need flags or lights or the over size bannet? Anything else I will need. Not new to hauling I beams just not over length. Thanks for the help.
     
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  3. BROKENSPROKET

    BROKENSPROKET Medium Load Member

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    I thought OverSize banners are for width only. Not length. I could be wrong.
     
  4. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    Oversize signs are needed for over length but depending on how they load 60' beams you won't be over length. In Ca for instance, Teressi Trucking does 60' beams on 53' flats but they have a 10' span between the front of the trailer and the back of the sleeper. No permits are required at all (not over length). If you only have a few feet sticking off the back of the trailer it is not oversize but you do need to flag and light the end of the load. Some states do call it oversize if it is more than a foot over the rear of the trailer...
     
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  5. joewispers

    joewispers Medium Load Member

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    Time 2 get the Green Book out...>:biggrin_2555:<
     
  6. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    No length limit on the national network but every state is different on their state roads for length and rear overhang laws so it really depends on what your route is.

    Also (as mentioned above), it depends on how you are loaded. I have run 4 ft front overhang and 3 ft rear overhang. No permit required for 3 ft RO in NY, PA. Just flag the overhang and go. IIRC, MD doesn't allow ANY rear overhang at all therefore a stretch is required (don't quote me on that).

    Let's say you have 7 ft of rear overhang and are 80 ft overall. You might need a permit to get from the mill to the national network plus you might need a permit for rear overhang on the national network. Clear as mud?

    Almost forgot there's more LOL. Some states do not allow any rear overhang on a 53 but some commodities are exempt from that rule. Usually one piece items like poles or beams.
     
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  7. Bigchevy

    Bigchevy Light Load Member

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    put as far forward as you can, if its over 4 ft off rear then you need flags, and I thinks its over 10ft you need permits, you don't half to run banners tho.
     
  8. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    If it is a non-reducible load and has 4 ft. or more over the rear then standard red flags. Lights if you run at night. A bar light on the rear and 2 side markers on each side. Don't remember the limit on over hang before over-sized banner front and back is needed. Use a couple of flags cause sometimes those little devils fly off then your in a world of s%$#. PS- As the over hang gets longer say 20 ft or more watch out for that tail swing. Same goes the front over hang too. Back in the day..............
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  9. 281ric

    281ric Road Train Member

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    depending on the state and how much overhang you can have in front and rear, you might not need permits.
     
  10. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    You guys are replying with info on 10 or 20 foot overhangs like you don't know what he is hauling... HE SAID 60 foot beams. If you have 20 foot overhang on a 53 flat, you probably need a refresher course on how to load.
     
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  11. Jumbo

    Jumbo Road Train Member

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    Green book doesn't do you any good for his question.
     
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