Cty Permit or Huge Fine!

too many variables to sort though. different width with different rules. and length. and all the states, counties, and cities. too much to sort through. none of you would have that kind of time unless your sitting waiting on one of them permits that takes a week to get.

 

While I seldom believe that there needs to be MORE regulations, I believe that this one would be beneficial to everyone. Except, of course, to the local governments who are using truckers as cash cows.

 

ohio allows rest area stops without it being on permit. but truckstops? always has been that way.

 

lawer fee's and time off to go to court and thousands of $$$ sure ya can! just ask the cop in Arkansas that tried that on me two yrs ago. lost a couple off stripes off his sleeve and a little less pay and the enjoyment of seeing me every now and then when I roll through the scales he works, makes my day everytime.

 

"Permit service should have liability"... "Shippers should have skin in the game"... "Escort drivers should be responsible"...
All you "super truckers" who claim to be the big dogs that make the big bucks because you do the loads nobody else can do, you can't handle knowing what permits you should have?
Remember, when we share responsibilities with others in the transportation chain, we also share the MONEY!
How are you any different than a steering wheel holder working for Swift if all you do is stand by a fax machine waiting for your "permit lady" to tell you what you need? If you can't figure out that the state highway you are on ends at COUNTY rd 1234, then you should not be driving a truck, much less oversize. If you CAN figure out that that state road ends at a county road, then how do you not know that YOU need to contact someone at the county transportation office (or at least tell your permit service)? In todays world you need some sort of permit for every inch your truck rolls. Look at a map while holding your permits, is there a gap? Then you don't have all the necessary permits. Im not saying that most of us don't take a chance every now and then (going a few miles without a city or county permit) but blaming others for not having the proper permits is no different than blaming your mechanic for not telling you what the red light and the "E" on the fuel gauge means.

 

Reader's Digest Version: Whose responsibility is it to do your homework?

We've all seen the screw ups. Bad routing, road construction sign says, "No loads over 10 ft wide", and you're 15 ft wide. Dates wrong, dims wrong...something's wrong. If you don't do your homework, you won't catch it. Guntoter's right. If your state permit says I40 exit 8, US70, end at county road XYZ, and your delivery address is 401 Smith St and Smith Street is not US 70, guess what that means?

Years ago, in my second driving career, I was pulling an oversized load for Swift out of Ottumwa,Ia to Gainesville, Florida. I went to the Iowa 80 and bought one of those pilot car directories. I had a question about whether or not I could run a wind rower on the weekend in Illinois, since it was exempt as farm equipment. There was absolutely NOONE in the entire Swift organization that could help me. N O O N E!!!!!
"Yeah, go ahead driver, you will be okay. We have drivers pull OD loads on the weekends all the time?" Realllllly? The book and the permit says that oversize can't run, but you're telling me that since you don't need a permit, you are exempt, right? The primary reason I put in an application with my current company was because every time I needed help, one of their drivers helped me.

a desk jockey will tell you what you want to hear just to get you off the phone. Better dig deeper than that.

My understanding of the OSOW provisions at that time (they've changed since then), implements of husbandry were exempt from needing a permit, but the regs (driving times, flags banners, beacons..etc) still stand.

Had a problem with a long load. Took a stretch load to the Michigan UP. At Marquette, there was road construction, and a detour. There were two gaps in the routing. I looked it up on the map and couldn't make sense of it. I called the state. The lady told me about the construction and how I needed a county permit to fill in the gaps. I called that county, told them the dims, and they emailed me the county permit. Double checked everything on the map and it was correct. It makes everything easier when you do your homework beforehand.

 

Yeah...those "implements of animal husbandry" have always been a question mark for me. My understanding of the "rule" was that they were only exempt if the owner was hauling the equipment himself.

 

Pretty sure NYDOT supervisor told me the rule only applied if I owned the vehicle. Also,does a tractor qualify...could be used to blow snow too right? I find it about as clear as mud.