stick around Crawford half of us are ex trans am drivers and between us we have a lot of practical knowledge
about shippers etc etc
HomeTimeQueen is a lil scary but you will get used to her
she likes to know where everyone is so update often
TransAm Trucking, Inc. - Olathe, Ks.?
Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by tjgosurf, Aug 29, 2006.
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I'm not sure Cranky but, I think you just called HTQ a busybody! !!
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Den Mother! Busybody! Yous guys is talkin' to the Queen, ya know! I'll have you know I have been called worse....you'll find their bodies buried on the back 40!

If I don't know where you are, how can I keep you on the straight and narrow???!
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Do any of y'all know about how far a company driver can PC while waiting on a meat load?
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According to the safety director where the King now works that is a gray area. But if gamma is wanting to go to a restaurant to get something to eat and it is within a reasonable distance he should be okay. How far was he wanting to go?
Under normal circumstances, all time spent at the controls operating a commercial vehicle must be logged as driving time (on-duty time if the driver is using one of the exceptions that allows the use of time records).
However, what happens with a driver is using his or her commercial vehicle as a personal vehicle to commute to or from a personal destination?
The concept of off-duty driving time is not actually in the regulations; however, it is discussed in the interpretations to Part 395. Interpretations are guidances published by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) to provide a better understanding of the rules.
[h=2]It can be done if you follow the rules[/h]To be able to log personal conveyance time as off duty, there are several conditions that must be met. These conditions are the same whether a company driver is taking his/her company truck home or an owner-operator is taking his/her truck home (or to another personal destination).
First, you must be relieved of all responsibilities and conduct no on-duty activities. No work for the company is allowed during the personal conveyance. For example, you cannot bring the truck in for maintenance and call the trip personal conveyance.
Second, the trip and destination must be purely personal in nature. Moving to pick up your next load, bringing the truck into the terminal from your last destination, and running to the parts store for parts cannot be considered personal conveyance. You must be commuting to a personal destination, such as home, a restaurant, or a motel, and back.
Third, the vehicle must not be laden. In other words, you cannot be carrying any freight during the personal conveyance. If you drive a tractor trailer, this means not even pulling a trailer.
Fourth, you must not be repositioning the equipment. If you go from your companys terminal to home, and then are dispatched to go get a trailer somewhere else, you have repositioned and cannot call the trip personal conveyance.
Fifth, you cannot be using the vehicle as a personal conveyance if you have been placed out of service for an hours-of-service violation.
Finally, the personal conveyance distance needs to be reasonable. You are not allowed to travel several hundred miles and call it personal conveyance. One definition of reasonable is, Could the driver get 8 hours of sleep after arriving at the personal destination if the driver only took 10 hours off? If the answer is no, then the distance may not be considered reasonable.
The Canadian regulations are a little more specific in this area. A driver in Canada cannot use the commercial vehicle for personal conveyance for more than 75 kilometers per day.
[h=2]But theyre not paying me![/h]In certain situations, carriers may tell their drivers or owner-operators that they can just head for home. In many cases, when the carrier does this they do not pay the driver or owner-operator for their time or miles.
Does this change the situation? No, it does not. Pay is not a determining factor in whether a driver is on duty or off duty. The drivers activity is what determines whether the driver should be logging on or off duty. If the driver is not relieved of all responsibilities, does work along the way, has a laden vehicle, or is repositioning equipment, the driver cannot claim the time is personal conveyance and the trip must be logged as on-duty and/or driving.
The only time pay is an issue when it comes to logging is if payroll records can prove that the driver was on duty. An example of this is paying a driver for loading or unloading. If the driver was specifically paid to load or unload, then the driver should have logged the time as on-duty time.
As you can see, there are several conditions that must be met to consider a trip with a commercial vehicle to be personal conveyance. The best advice is that when looking at the trip, if you are not sure you can meet one of the requirements, your best bet is to just keep logging the regular way.
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Yes, I am quite proud of George! Thanks for praying!
HometimeQueen Thanks this. -
I had a feeling something was going on when I didn't see you online. How is your mom doing today? And how are you? I know you have to be worn out and ready for a break. Prayers sent for your mom and for you.
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I am refinishing a 2 floor apartment right now but will be in back driving in July. I miss driving not as much sweating. I do like being home and eating well.
I have always said you can not PC on the way home with a trailer and so many argued with me at Trans Am even the trainers. There was a show on Sirus Roaddog chanel that had this trooper from Tx get on and explain every rule very detailed, that was in 08.
They better hope the DOT doesnt look for that next audit.
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Mom is doing somewhat better today. I am kind of tired but hanging out with daughters and grandkids. That's another story. I was only going to be able to spend Saturday night. Twist of fate, one of my brothers is staying with Mom for the weekend, so I got to get away today! That brother, however, was all into my business because he woke me up at 9 a.m. today. He even wanted to know how late I was up last night! Like, seriously?!! I told him midnight but was more like 1 a.m. I did tell him that I am an adult! So, later he calls & tells me he's coming to spend time with Mom cause she doesn't need negativity since I must be tired and need a break!!! Wow! Thank you, Brother.....I told him I don't need to be censored. Now, isn't that a lovely story?! Needless to say, I was on edge, infuriated, much of the day, though happy for a break!
Now, HTQ, you probabl got more than you asked for! Thanks again for prayers and concern. It's so nice to know someone cares.Last edited: May 30, 2014
HometimeQueen Thanks this.
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