Roehl Driver Check In Continued

Discussion in 'Roehl' started by Treefork, Jun 4, 2013.

  1. Heysunshine

    Heysunshine Light Load Member

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    I was editing my post to add the 80% forward thing that I go off of. Doesnt that mean you need to cover 80% of the weight?
    I always figured out how much the coil weighs and threw straps to reach that number. If you're only covering 50% of the gross how does that cover the forward?
    Or am I not understanding?
     
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  3. Heysunshine

    Heysunshine Light Load Member

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    I didn't have 80463! I had 80429 or something. Had to have another guy help because I was afraid to break my face with the bar!
     
  4. gingersquatch

    gingersquatch Medium Load Member

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    Depending on what's going on, there is the potential that your strap around the front doesn't count towards your agg. If you are using a piece of something between the object and your strap. For example on a shotgun coil, placing a piece of Dunnage across the front of the coil with a strap pulling reward can't count for your agg. Because the Dunnage doesn't have a wll but can count as force limiting forward movement just as a false bulkhead would. You also could have friction mats contributing to suppressing forward movement, but doesn't count towards your overall.

    So. Using your coil example. 44000 lbs and 6 straps over the top of your 2 coils Covers 32400 forward sideways rearward and upward which is short of only covering 80% forward. Add in the extra strap around the front and you're at 37,800 which covers your 80% forward.
     
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  5. Heysunshine

    Heysunshine Light Load Member

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    I get the math, obviously. But the coils I grabbed from Gary had 6. All crossed on the top. Is that legal then? Because you're meeting the 50%? Or does it need the 7th to cover the 80. I always cover the 80 because I thought that's what was required. I never understood the 'you only need to cover 50%' when part of the rule is to cover 80% of the objects weight from coming forward.
    If that's all DOT cares about then I won't #####. I'll just add to meet MY comforts.
     
  6. Meltom

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    [h=3]Immobilizting, and Securing Cargo: Restraining the cargo correctly (Section 2.2.3.1)[/h]How many tiedowns are required?
    If cargo is not prevented from forward movement (for example, by the headboard, bulkhead, other cargo, or tiedown attached to the cargo), secure the cargo according to the following requirements:
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    [TH]Article Description[/TH]
    [TH]Minimum # of Tiedowns[/TH]
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    [TD]
    • 1.52 m (5 ft) or shorter
    • 500 kg (1,100 lb.) or lighter
    [/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [/TR]
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    [TABLE="width: 100%"]
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    [TH]Article Description[/TH]
    [TH]Minimum # of Tiedowns[/TH]
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    [TD]
    • 1.52 m (5 ft) or shorter
    • Over 500 kg (1,100 lb.)
    [/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
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    [TABLE="width: 100%"]
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    [TH]Article Description[/TH]
    [TH]Minimum # of Tiedowns[/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]More than 1.52 m (5 ft) but 3.02 m (10 ft) or less[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [/TR]
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    When cargo is prevented from forward movement (for example, by the headboard, bulkhead, other cargo, or tiedown), secure the cargo according to the following requirements:

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    [TH]Article Description[/TH]
    [TH]Minimum # of Tiedowns[/TH]
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    [TD]All Cargo[/TD]
    [TD]1 tiedown for every 3.04 m (10 ft), or part thereof
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
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    Note: A vehicle transporting one or more articles of cargo such as, but not limited to, machinery or fabricated structural items (e.g., steel or concrete beams, crane booms, girders, and trusses, etc.) which, because of their design, size, shape, or weight, must be fastened by special methods.
    However, any article of cargo carried on that vehicle must be securely and adequately fastened to the vehicle.
     
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  7. gingersquatch

    gingersquatch Medium Load Member

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    You need to meet all requirements. Special commodity requirements, then general requirements, so yes, you need to meet the 80,50,50,50,20 rules. You are right to ##### about the securement. I know I've gotten relays that I have to go back secure, and have had to retarp several loads. Whenever I relay a load, I load and secure and tarp exactly as I would as if it's my own load.
     
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  8. Dark Squall

    Dark Squall Medium Load Member

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  9. Meltom

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    I miss flatbed, you don't have to think at all in reefer, set your thermostat and dont hit bridges.
     
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  10. Dark Squall

    Dark Squall Medium Load Member

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    Ending the day in Lincoln Ill, at Thornton's. Nice place.
    My day sucked!!!
    Got only 300 miles today, on account of P&G. Waited 3 1/2 hours to check in, behind a line of 40+ trucks, all doing preloaded like me. 3 1/2 hours to move around the building at get back to gate to check in. 5 minutes to hook and run.

    What a joke!!
     
  11. gingersquatch

    gingersquatch Medium Load Member

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    Only 3.5 hours? Lucky. Thursday I got to unload at alro steel which took 2 hours and 45 minutes (I was the only driver there) and then load at Wheatland tube which was 2.5 hours to get loaded, (best Wheatland experience I've had) just to relay it 60 miles away. Still knocked out 250 miles and got home. Only had 3 minutes left on my clock, but made it.
     
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