Any hope the 34 hour rule will get repealed?

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  1. Lux Prometheus

    Lux Prometheus Heavy Load Member

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    His original point was he doesn't WANT any hours-of-service regulations, because he wants to drive exhausted and put other people at risk.
     
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  3. Lux Prometheus

    Lux Prometheus Heavy Load Member

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    Ya see, I can handle 12 hours with breaks, because most people can handle that. But unlimited drive time?? The only way anyone can do that is on speed, and it's those drivers that are the most dangerous to everyone.
     
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    When they refer to unlimited driving time, it is for them to drive as their body allows. So, driving 12 take a break of needed sleep and then do it again.

    Not just getting in and driving till they drop.
     
  5. TLeaHeart

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    Yes to repeal regulations takes government involvement, duh.

    quickly off the top of my head, Henry Ford, before the government got involved in telling businesses how much they had to pay. Now so many people depend on the government to tell them what to do, it has become peoples ONLY thought pattern.
     
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    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Look at the way business was after that.

    I was in management at the middle level. I had to deal with employee issues and then the upper management and the treatment of the employees.

    I had many experiences with upper management and their opinions of the rules that made them pay employees for work. They desired to drop all pay to 1.00 an hour all for profit.
     
  7. Lux Prometheus

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    If there were fewer trucking companies, that might work; but today it won't. But trying to "let the market decide" is putting the drivers at the short end of the stick, and forcing us to do things we aren't supposed to do (fudge logs, drive excessively and dangerously, etc) to merely survive. Either the trucking companies need to change their operations to help protect their greatest assets (YES, the drivers!), or we drivers need to put something in place to protect us, and the ONLY other thing available to us will be OUR government, and regulations placed to protect US.

    And forget the shippers/recievers: if they could bypass us all, they would. Heck, if they could eliminate all of their employees, they would (yes, I know, the trucking companies would do the same thing).
     
  8. Lux Prometheus

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    He would be at the business end of a lash, just like the rest of us. Hence the need for rule of law, to protect the very people that make it all happen.
     
  9. Lux Prometheus

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    Open market never works, it just opens the door to scams, dangerous products, and outright thievery. It has to be a balance that keeps the businesses and manufacturers honest, but allows them to make the products profitably.

    The real problem right now is the entire "it's just business" attitude, or "profit at any cost"--including the cost of human life. By relaxing or eliminating regulations, we've regressed to about the 1900s or so, in terms of ripoff services, products and scams. Trucking has regressed, too, in that they get to skirt employment laws. With the latest changes in hourly wages and such, we've regressed as well, in that it's almost impossible for an ordinary worker to get a full-time hourly job with benefits and overtimd--heck, even salaried workers are now being forced into "contractor" designations, so the employers can avoid paying benefits and any overtime.

    It's all a ripoff designed to increase profits to obscene levels, at the expense of the workers being driven into poverty.

    Obviously, deregulation has done nothing for us, and none of the profits are "trickling down".
     
  10. TLeaHeart

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    you mean bean counter, lawyer ran government mandated business? The government intervention is used to pick winners and losers, to drive competition out of the market. And it works.

    And those upper management did not understand business, but only greed. The companies that prosper and grow, even today, are the ones that value their employees, and treat them with respect, regardless of government regulations.

    and here is a list of companies, that actually take care of their employees...

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquel...with-the-biggest-jumps-in-employee-happiness/

    There are people who actually KNOW that their employees are their business, and value them as such. And those people would continue to do so without government regulations... they do NOT depend on the government, they do NOT look to the government to solve their problems, they depend on their company, and the people.

    Toyota USA is another company today, that excels, above and beyond government regulations, as it is the business culture to engage and respect the employee.

    And another company the respects their employees, VW USA...
     
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    Truly open markets work... which we do NOT have anymore, due to government regulations of everything.

    Any business that looks at "profit at any cost" will fail, without government support...

    The business that looks to their employees, to provide a needed service, or product, that is a value to the customer, are the ones that easily make a profit.

    History teaches us that government regulations drive businesses away, to less regulated markets, even within the USA.
     
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