please steer this wannabe trucker in the right direction

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by hiii98, Jun 16, 2014.

  1. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    Well, if you go to a private school, you ARE on the hook for the whole thing.

    Most company schools aren't that expensive. Swift Academy is $3900, paid back at $75/week for 52 weeks. Prime's school is in the same ballpark. Neither requires money up front for the actual schooling, though you may need $100 or so for various fees.
     
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  3. hiii98

    hiii98 Light Load Member

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    I guess its all boiling down to a few options I have before me.

    1. I pay for school and drive there each day 30 mins away. total cost $5,300 not including fuel plus lunch. The school is accredited but doesn't have the best rep. It starts Monday and finishes in 4 weeks. I have no money and there are some benefits to this. A local trucking company said they would hire me and new hires make 50-65k with a 3,000 starting bonus (paid over 1-2 years)

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    2. Millis Trucking said they would hire me and pay for school. However I must go to their schools only. The school is 1.5 hours away. Total cost is $5,000. $2,500 of it comes out of my paycheck , if I stay on past a year they cover the other 2,500 owed. They said new drivers make 45k first year.



    another question. I still have flawless credit but I know it will be destroyed in less than a month... I also have enough money for a down payment on a tractor. do I wait for my credit to self implode but get in some experience and see if I even like the trucking lifestyle... or is there somehow a way to reserve a truck with my credit now... and wait a few months before paying on it. I mean it seems crazy to consider buying a truck wheni don't even have a CDL... but I know for sure in 2 months time I will have no credit (but hopefully some income)

    final option... there is a program called WIA or Workforce Investment Act that I think might pay for tuition, but they likely would take several weeks to procure funds if at all. there is also a W-2 program (welfare-to-workforce?) I'm not on welfare but I might as well be as I have zero income. Just want to not incure bigger debt with tuition, and start making money at the best company immediately after school. Your advice on these matters is invaluable.

    and to another user who asked, yes I really do have a MS degree... throughout college graduated at the top of my classes, but then became self employed for the past 15 years (until investing everything i had into a massive restaurant only to close it last year). I also have my Private Pilot's License so I don't see a CDL as being beyond my reach. Employers don't care for employees without employer experience, and with my degrees I'm being told I'm overqualified for the jobs I'm applying for. Besides...I don't want to be in a suit and tie everyday, feels like a straight jacket to me, only to be yelled at by some boss. I'm a extremely independent person, divorced, but have my 2 kids. Trucking would be quite a transition for me but one I should have done a lifetime ago.
     
  4. paintballer

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    How old are your kids?
     
  5. paintballer

    paintballer Light Load Member

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    Forget about buying a truck. You are not in any condition to make owning a truck work. It will dig your hole deeper.

    Can you give a detailed pay and benefit structure for these two companies you are considering? If you don't know, you need to be pushy and find out. That average starting wage means very little. How you get to it means everything.

    Keep in mind you are really just a variable cost like fuel to the company if your on a millage wage. They need to run that truck enough to cover fixed costs plus variable cost enough to break even. Can they give you the miles and keep giving them to you? Enough for you to make a good wage. Their break even point is likely to be lower miles than what you need.

    I have heard from drivers that did not get enough miles. They where stuck at truck stops for days. Living on the road is expensive.

    You need to look into these companies more. Go to some truck stops and seek out their drivers and talk to them. Find out how much they sit, how many miles they get, how much they get home, and what they think of the company overall.

    Sitting time costs you money. You need to be running. Forget about seeing the country, you can't see that much from the road anyway. If you want to make money you need to be moving.

    I took my son a few times on local drop or pickups a hour from home. Safe area. Trucking over the road is not safe. Don't take your kids on the road with you. I remember a few years ago a grandpa had a grand kid riding with him. He got tangled up in a tunnel accident. Both were killed plus others. Drivers have been killed for their loads. You have to go through or stop in very unsafe areas many times.

    Trucking looks so easy from the outside. In today's economy many flee hard times hoping for a new start. Many think it is going to be easy and it looks like you can make good money. Many times though it just makes your life more difficult. Some make good money others struggle.

    Personally I think your making a mistake. Don't sell your business background and education short. You may need to take a lessor job at first.

    How old are your kids?
     
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  6. hiii98

    hiii98 Light Load Member

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    my kids are 6 and 12. I'm not interested in reentering the business world at this time. Perhaps as a owner/operator and eventually building a fleet down the road, but right now I want to midlife crisis reinvent myself. Not from depression or anything, as a teen graduating from highschool I wanted to drive trucks and was told instead that its a horrible profession and that I had to finish college first. Turns out what my parents and society forced me to believe in regards to career paths in life may be worse.
     
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  7. hiii98

    hiii98 Light Load Member

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    sorry need to bump this as time is running out for me to make a decision

     
  8. paintballer

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    Well you have already made your mind up. It is just which direction to go.

    No way you can make it buying your own truck. If you get one what do you do with it? No experience. Who would take you. You still need to get a cdl. Poor financial situation makes it impossible for you to stay on the road if you some how find away to get out there.

    You need to find out more info on these two companies. Both situations look workable. If home time is important find out which one looks best. How positive are you that they can deliver on those income estimates?

    Either school seems workable.

    Learn trucking on the other man's dime. Especially considering your financial situation.

    Good luck either way. I hope it works out for you.

    Ps. Don't take the kids on the road with you. Don't put the burden of your life style change on them. It will be bad enough on them that you are going to be gone a lot.
     
  9. hiii98

    hiii98 Light Load Member

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    thank you, but I disagree about taking my 12 year old for a brief trip with me. the local company is ok with kids, and has the driver home before the weekend. every once in a while on breaks why wouldn't I take my daughter with me??
     
  10. paintballer

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    Being in a big truck is not as safe as you think. You can be the safest driver in the world and still be hit by someone else. We log so many more miles than the average person that sooner or later something bad can happen.

    You have no idea where you will be running yet. You can be in dangerous area crime wise. Like I said drivers have been killed for their loads. Robbed in the parking lot of truck stops. Crazy things happen out there. What if something happens to you while stopped somewhere? Many variables you can't control, except one, leave her home. I just think you have way more risk when you go over the road even for a couple of days.

    Hey that grandpa was probably a super safe driver. He just had things go terribly wrong when he had a grand kid riding with him.

    What do you think his last thoughts were?

    There is a element of danger in this job. Should a cop take his 12 year old on patrol with him?

    This is my advice to you. But it is your choice. I pray nothing ever happens and I am just a worry wart.

    In your situation I would choose the one that gets me home more.
     
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