Hi Everyone,
Its been awhile since I posted. Anyway wanted to share the story.
5 years ago, my husband, a 23 yr driver was sent for a random drug test by his employer. He had 1 hour before the clinic was going to close to give his drug test. He was unable to go. Clinic reported to employer that he "refused" his test. Was placed on DAC record and literally black-balled. Here comes the fun part:
As everyone that has ever had to submit to a randon drug testing, you complete what is called the Controlled Custody Form AKA CR49F. This is the form where your name, social security number...and you eventually sign it once you've completed your test that is sent to the lab to process for drugs/alcohol.
Now...naturally if your test is positive, your employer is notified, your either offered drug rehab or fired, with a COPY of your test retained in your file. This is called proof. This is also Federal Law, that copies are to be retained for 5 years.
If your test is negative, the COPY is retained in the employees file and life continues down the road.
There is a place on the CCF in the event an employee actually refuses a drug test. This would indicate briefly what happened and a COPY would be sent to your employer, and you most likely would end up with either an offer for drug rehab or being fired. A COPY is retained in the employees file.
Now back to the story......our case is right now in Circuit Court sitting in a Judge's office waiting for a ruling on this case.
The clinic has stated in deposition that they do NOT have a copy of his CCF form. But wait a minute....its Federal Law that they have a copy...and guess what else???? Neither does the employer!!!
But yet, this Judge has refused to rule in over a month with this case! Imagine that!
Sounds pretty clear to me...maybe I'm crazy...but if I need proof that I am negative, proof if I am positive, and proof if I refused...and the clinic has no record of my randon drug test or can ever prove I was there...the Judge should absolutely rule against them...but yet he stalls.
If this Judge rules against us here...we will infact appeal his decision, which will take another year and more $$$.
What exactly would His Honor be saying to the world that anyone that has a CDL and requires randon drug testing...that its OK not to have a copy and proof? Clinics can say what they want, and employers can act on it without proof??? How can a Superior Court Judge override what is written Federal Law for CDL drivers?
Maybe some of you would say...contact the Federal Motor Carriers and have them investigate it...been there, done that....WASTE of TIME.
It's always the drivers fault...never no one elses. These federal laws are for you, not them. They could care less if the shoe is on the other foot. They won't give you the time of day.
Please don't let our horror story become yours....just thought your truckers would want to know..
I'll keep you posted as this saga continues. Thanks for your time and stay safe out there!
Pattycak
Controlled Custody Form - Federal Drug Testing for CDL Drivers
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Pattycak, Apr 18, 2008.
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Best wishes on your fight! Hope you win!
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It also says in the FMCSR 382.411(a)(b), the employer is suppose to notify the driver if tests are positive. This also includes preemployment status.
This is a great post. I'm interested to see how the judge rules on this. I have read many posts on here for preemployment tests. I sometimes wonder if some of these companies are actually doing things by the FMCSR. The way it was intended to be followed. I hope the ruling is in your favor and you can sue the pants off this company. Not just for lost wages but also for defamation of character.
Keep us posted.....
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Pattycak,I see your case is slowly dragging its way through the court system.It's typical ,as the same is true for most government agencies.a couple of years back I went in for a random drug and alcohol test.I could not give an adequate amount of speciman.I like to call it pee,they call it speciman.It took well over an hour before I could give them a specimen and I did pass.Under federal law,you must be allowed 3 hours to give a specimen. If you can't pass urine in adequate amount.The testing facility must supply you with 40 oz of fluid.Not drinking during this 3 hour period does not constitute a refusal.Still you must be given 3 hours to supply an adequate amount.Your husband ,it seems was only given one hour because of the closing time of the testing facility.As far as the judge taking time to review the your case,it's proably a good thing.The judge needs time to review case law and regulations.Time consuming.With all the time you have had since this all started,you have had plenty of time to research everthing under the FMCSA regulations but to refresh go to FMCSA.Type in 382.401(retention of records)After reading this go to 382.105(testing procedures)click on part 40 and go to subpart I,40.193(problems in drug tests)I hope this helps you or any other driver going through the same thing.
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Just another case(law) whereas your guilty until proven innocent, sorta like the tax laws in this country.
Communism is here folks.
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