Walmart driver at 20 mph over speed limit, investigation ongoing about before on duty

I certainly believe theres more to it than what the media is saying. Of course they are going to lean toward the Tracy Morgan side because they hate truckers anyway.

 

65 in a 45. Was this in an actual construction zone or was it along one of the long stretches on the lower part of the turnpike that have the electronic speed limit signs that are often reduced to 45 mph for absolutely no reason at all? Never in my life have I seen someone do 45 through that area and I run that road often late at night. Actual construction zones I slow right down for.

 

You have already made him guilty on the twitter account. Now, you want to wait to prove or disprove? Feeling judgmental?

Do you know whether the entire traffic was running that fast or not?

I am not cutting him slack.

Unlike most people, I believe in the rights that he has. Read the law sometime.


By the way. Do you drive 1 mph over the speed limit and the same in construction zones? You are then just as guilty. Should I pass judgement on an accident that you had without all of the facts like you do?

A drunk driver killed a family member and left him to be struck on the road by two other vehicles laying there injured.

He had the right to trial as well, no matter what we thought.

 

He has the right to a trial, sure. And the law must operate under predetermined guidelines.

When a guy falls from a building and dies, do you assume the fall killed him or wait for an autopsy?

Speeding and No Skid Marks. Since I'm not on the jury, that's enough for me.

I love the idea of a Trucker Brotherhood, however, this guy clearly not paying attention while he was going way over the speed limit, and he changed a lot of lives because of it. Do you want guys like this in the brotherhood?

 

"This distracted former driver (who didn't even brake) slammed into a limo"

First that I heard there was no braking involved. I doubt that is accurate. Judging from the pics I saw, I believe he did brake, just too late. No way he was doing 65 when he hit the other vehicles or the damage to them would have been far greater. Re: the skid marks, modern ABS brakes don't leave much for marks ... they just stop the truck, quick. That truck even had collision avoidance installed, which are automatically supposed to stop the vehicle in a situation like the WalMart driver found himself in. Maybe some of the blame goes to that system which either malfunctioned or was not set up correctly. Look, maybe this driver is wrong as can be in every instance, but just as likely there are some mitigating circumstances that haven't been made public as yet.

 

Bergy --

I think the point of the HOS issue here is that the media have cast things in a "he was almost out of hours so OF COURSE he was a tired trucker" light. And, you know, it's always a "tired trucker." (If 4-wheelers screw up, they were texting.) I mean, people can look at a truck driver's ashes after a truck fire and tell that he'd been tired! An LEO merely has to whisper that he thinks a trucker was tired and the media will print it as fact.

At NJ.com there's speculation that the driver wouldn't have legally finished his hours anyway if he hadn't hit the van (yeah, that sounds weird to me too). IMO, if he was HOS-legal, then HOS shouldn't be a part of the conversation. I don't think the driver jumped out of his truck and announced that he'd been up for more than 24 hours. Unfortunately, this particular collision comes while Senator Collins's temporary 34/1-5 X2 rollback is in play and it gives the highway "safety" people ammunition to oppose her amendment. Then we get ignorant people like the Whoopie Cushion ranting. But I agree: no excuses.

 

How do you know there are no skid marks?

Do you know how ABS works?

Now, you believe he has the right to trial.

Now, have you ever been distracted or are you claiming to be a perfect driver.

Just remember, the post you make is permanent history when karma comes calling.

 

Cant speak for others but for me it's more about lawmakers and the media pointing at this case and sticking it to the rest of us with more regulations when we all #### well know this had nothing to do with the HOS.

If it comes out this guy was on his phone or something of that nature then throw the book at him. I'm just sick of hearing that he was up for 24 hours when all that is is speculation at this point.

 

Kind of doubt the phone. Walmart has a very strict phone policy and you can find it on a thread on the forum.

 

Roadmedic. Have I somehow implied this guy doesn't deserve a trial? Whos posts are you reading?

I am not a lawyer, judge, investigating officer, or jury member - therefore I am well within my rights to have an opinion on this without waiting for the trial.

You seem to be arguing for the sake of playing devils advocate, or do you really believe him to be innocent?

You have caught me, I am not perfect. If at any point I kill and injure a bunch of people because I wan't watching where I was going while going way over the speed limit - please be sure to pull this post up and make sure that karma is served.

I have a lot of respect for the trucking industry, so much in fact, that I want those drivers who are "phoning it in" to get off the road. Am I perfect you ask, nope - said as much many, many times. If this driver forgot to close his doors, or left his card with the cashier - that is an accident. This wasn't a forgivable accident in my books.