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HOS violation

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by snowlauncher, Jun 19, 2014.

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  1. Jun 19, 2014 #1
    snowlauncher

    snowlauncher Road Train Member

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    Well...I had my first logbook violation yesterday. I'm on E-logs and drove 600 mi. to a customer for what was supposed to be a drop & hook. When I got there they said they didn't have any empty's and it would be a live unload. I only had about 2 hrs. left of my 14 hrs. A little over 3 hours later I was unloaded. I told them I was out of hours and needed to park. They said I had to leave the property. The nearest safe place to park was about 3 mi. away, so I violated my HOS and drove there. I talked to my safety manager about it and he acted like it was no big deal. He edited in a comment that I was forced to move in case DOT looks at it. Is this acceptable? Or could I still get in trouble for it? Any other drivers out there had this happen?
     
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  3. Jun 19, 2014 #2
    snowwy

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    happens all the time.

    if you got personal conveyance. it's a smart tool to have and use. you can drive off duty. claim personal conveyance. and nothing to worry about.
     
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  4. Jun 19, 2014 #3
    Stormdriven

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    In order.

    Un known. (depends who is interested).

    Yes.

    Yes.
     
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  5. Jun 19, 2014 #4
    Newbeav Newbie

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    Yeah, it's a problem if your logs are inspected. Next time let the shipper know you are short on hours before hand, and give them a time that you absolutely have to be out of there by. Usually this will stir the pot to get loaded.
     
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  7. Jun 19, 2014 #5
    snowlauncher

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    I don't normally b#tch about E-logs, but in this instance they work against the driver. Paper would have avoided the violation. Either way if something were to happen while I was en-route to a parking place, I woulda been screwed.
     
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  8. Jun 19, 2014 #6
    Florida Playboy

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    Shippers/receivers don't give a crap about your hours running out. Most of them don't even know what HOS is.
     
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  9. Jun 19, 2014 #7
    8thnote

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    I have yet to come across a shipper/consignee that gives one single solitary #### about my log book situation.

    That being said, I'm on elogs and I go over occasionally. The scenario that the OP described is pretty common. Also, if I run out of time on Friday afternoon and I'm 60 miles or less from home, I'm going home, safety man and DOT be ######.
     
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  10. Jun 19, 2014 #8
    snowlauncher

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    I could probably do that with some. In this case I dont think they cared about it though. Not their problem...until a driver gets forced off their property when he needs rest and kills someone that they know or love because he was too tired to drive. Maybe I should have told them I would come back to unload in the morning when I had done a reset? I dont really know the best course of action in this case.
     
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  11. Jun 19, 2014 #9
    tsavory

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    Marked had to move to safe haven and 90% wont mess with you on it.
    Got caught once went to pick up a load on Friday that went home had one hr left and it was 60 miles away no biggy well when said and done an hour over when I got there. Officer next day asked why I told him he was nice said ok have a greatday thanks for being honest.
     
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  12. Jun 19, 2014 #10
    Stormdriven

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    You are correct.

    A few years back. OOIDA and a member forced the issue at a facility in Florida.

    The driver refused to move.

    Customer called the police. to eject the driver or force him to move.

    OOIDA called DOT.

    A DOT officer was pulled out of the nearest scale & dispatched to the location.

    DOT officer escorted the Driver Truck/Trailer to a place the driver could take his brake.
     
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