HOS violation

This depends on where and the situation. I have watched YRC drivers pull this one at the BNSF ramp when it comes to their meal breaks, BNSF will call the BNSF cops, they will give the driver one warning to move. If he doesn't, they will call a wrecker, if he is still in the same spot when the wrecker arrives, they will have him towed off the property, followed by 30 to 90 day ban. YC shop steward tried to argue with the BNSF cop about this once, he left in cuffs in the back of a Denver Police cruiser, facing felony trespassing charges. I know in my area there are a few companies that if you do this, will ban the driver from the property. We have one grocery transhipper, they are across the street from a truck stop. If you are out of hours, they don't care, your leaving the property, by will or on a hook, and they won't pay the wrecker bill.

 

sorry any shipper or receiver that has room and wont let me stay never sees my truck again. well except one tricked me once changed the name. I have no use for anti trucker joints that want trucks to be at their bacon call but unwilling to work with a driver. now mind you no room for them to do business or get another truck in I understand and hold no grudge.

 

true and apologize for my post as the safe haven is hazmat and my brain shoikd have picked up on that right away as I used to haul hazmat all the time.
The DOT guy that let me move even out of hours called it that and for some dang reason that stuck in my head even though at the time I had thought tomyself it was wrong wording I just wanted to get the my 90 after some dip weed slamed into my drives and I had to sit around for 3 hrs.
Thank you for calling me out on this. I am willing to admit when I am wrong.

 

Paper plant in New Mexico. They make you leave immediately once they scale you out. I arrived with scrap 6 hrs into my 14. When they finally had me loaded with my outbound rolls I was 2 hrs over my 14. They told me to leave and I said I'd pull back over to the stage area. Nope, leave now or we'll call the Sheriff. Ok, I am gonna pull over to the stage area and call the state police and you can call the Sheriff. So I pulled off the scales to the stage area and called state police. They forwarded call to DOT. Dot officer said it is private property and He Instructed me to go to the closest Safe & Legal spot I could find. He said do so On line 3 and start break when Safely and Legally parked.

 

You are most likely correct that they would have the right to order you off their property. The BNSF doesn't order there own trains off there own property. They just have to have other engineers trucked over to the engines.

 

every eLog system is set up differently. My company's log will not go to line 3 until we reach 5.0 miles. Originally we had 1.0 miles, it is a setting that can be changed at any time by the company. While I understand your method of "beating the system" by stopping and starting the engine, one of the requirements for eLogs is periodic internal logging of time and location. Every engine start logs time and location, as well as your location once each hour while the engine is running. This gets transmitted to the back end server and does not show up on logs, but the data is still there. Only under a worst case scenario would this show up such as involvement ina fatality accident. A normal DOT audit would almost never look at that data, just the logs, but they do have access to it if they desire. If your company allow personal conveyance that would be the best option.

This is the real world situation we all have to deal with and DOT/FMCSA and everyone else refuses to acknowledge, just pointing to "poor planning" on the drivers side of things.

 

I've only had the issue once. What I did was I called the local police at the time and asked them what I should do. They gave me instructions, and I got the officer's name and badge number. Put that in my logs for the note.

 

You're right, it's not a big deal. But my company gives us a $75 / month log bonus if we have no violations, and an additional $75 for a perfect quarter. That violation would have cost me $150 in bonus cash.

What would have avoided the situation is if the OP had contacted his company the moment he realized there would be an issue so they could light a fire under the receiver. I drive a daycab most days, so I need 2-4 hours to get back to the terminal depending on where I happen to be delivering. Trust me when I tell you, that load comes off very fast after I call dispatch and tell them that I need to be out of there by XX:XX time to make it back for my next load in the morning.

They will give a single solitary [expletive] when you decide to leave with that load still on your truck. I guarantee it.

Yes, you can use PC, but why should you have to? Hold your company's feet to the fire, and make them put some heat on the receiver to get you out of there before your time is up. Remember that your 11/14/70 is YOUR resource, and you're selling it to the company that you work for. It is a limited resource, and it is a valuable resource. Do not allow them to squander it.

My company pays me $15/hour detention after the first half hour. If I can't make it back to the terminal due to HOS, then I get $50 layover plus a hotel room. Yours should have a similar policy. If they don't, then vote with your feet and find a company that does.