Thanks for everyone's comments.....it gets everyone thinking, that's for sure and I said that it would be somewhat controversial. Here's my thoughts about recent posts:
MommaKay.......I caught your tongue in cheek comments right away and they were very good. Satire and sarcasm when handled they way you did is fun to read and let's everyone see an extreme side of things, while producing a smile and provoking thought.
GuysLady..........great point about identifying "John" and "Jane" Does.
Lowbudget, just because DNA is left behind at a scene doesn't release the law to prove a case for or against, but it really narrows down the suspects. If people wanted to frame someone, they can still do it today, but what if the person doing the framing with DNA, also left some of their own??
baack........you're right, it is scary and getting closer to "barcoding", but aren't we already implanting pets with microchips so they can be found? Are we doing that to children yet?? I thought I read about a "Kid safe" program that can do that to trace children. But your comment about taking away freedom of many to protect the few is incorrect. First of all we're not taking away anyone's freedom.....other than potential freedom of criminal's who break the law and overrun our prison's. If you submit DNA as a newborn, then become a law abiding citizen, productive citizen, what freedom have you lost? And who are the few we're "protecting"?? The criminals themselves because we can't catch them all the way we're doing it now, that's who we're protecting?? If we were to implement something like DNA collection at birth, the "few" we're protecting is the majority of law abiding citiziens who have right to be protected against the "few". I agree that maybe this collected DNA database should be accessed in certain situations, such as violent crimes, unidentified persons (whether as a victim of crimes or a victim of tragedy), etc.
(This is fun stuff isn't it??)
MommaKay.......knowing that you were being satirical, which has truth buried in it, your concern about catching too many criminals and overrunning our prisons, is just the opposite of what would happen (hopefully). What if crime actually went down because of the higher possibility of being caught?? Crimes are committed because people know that there's a high probability that they won't be caught......thus crimes increase. Would you take cookises form the cookie jar as a kid if you knew you'd get caught?? Maybe........depends if the punishment was worth the reward, I suppose. But would you do it if you couldn't eat the cookies and still get caught??
Collect DNA from every person they arrest
Discussion in 'Truckers News' started by Cybergal, Apr 17, 2008.
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SDTex, thanks for your comments. The problem as I see it isn't really the collection of DNA, but that so many things are considered "crimes" in this so-called "free" country of ours that it is very easy to imagine 30% of the population being convicted of one "crime" or another, should the government wish to prosecute them.
We really do have prisons in this country which are run for a profit. They run prison industries which produce clothing, furniture and other items which cost little in labor (prisoners work for less than room and board) but which make nice profits for the corporations running those prisons. Is it really that big a satirical stretch to imagine a government willing to work hand-in-hand with the prison corporations to provide a captive workforce? Both the USSR (gulags) and China have done exactly that in both past and (China) present.
We now live in a United States in which Citizens can be "disappeared" at the whim of the President, sent off to secret prisons and tortured. Compared to that nightmare, being sent to prison to work for CCA is relatively benign. -
You know it makes sense to have everyones DNA but can we trust the government not to abuse this info. I don't know. Maybe I'm paranoid but I feel that it is always the intention of governments to errode freedoms when thy can and it seems that it is up to the fringe extremists like the ACLU to to try and preserve our freedoms.
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In My Opinion: NEVER trust anyone with power over you. Especially when they say, "Hey, you can trust us!"
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why don't we just get a bar code tattooed to our foreheads that way big brother can just scan us and know everything at once or get a chip implanted so they can track your every move remember Orson Wells movie 1984 . Let big brother tell you what to do all they time . Not me I still live in a free country where I have rights . If you what to give up all of your rights move to china they will tell you where to work how many children you can have and where you will live .
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I am always amazed how we allow our selves to vote in an ordinary man or woman into office. Then they create laws for the betterment of the people based on imperfect thought processes
I don't want even for a maybe good reason any more loss of freedom
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Muleskinner <strong>"Shining Beacon of Chickenlights"</strong>
I say the hell with waiting...Lets just all turn ourselves in and go to prison and get it over with.
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Or we could take the faster route, and just all apply to Swift or CR England...
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Muleskinner <strong>"Shining Beacon of Chickenlights"</strong>
My motto perzactly
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Muleskinner <strong>"Shining Beacon of Chickenlights"</strong>
I didn't say I wanted to go THAT bad.lol
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