Private trucking school vs. community college?

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by 12String, May 25, 2014.

  1. 12String

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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    I think the unemployment office in Tampa pays for Roadmaster.
     
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  4. just_the

    just_the Light Load Member

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    I second pursuing WIA. It took about 5 weeks to do all of the paperwork, etc., but its worth it. Also, I'd consider pursuing whichever program includes endorsements. There are 2 here in town, but only 1 does tanker and hazmat training so I went there.
     
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  5. Desert_Pirate

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    I haven't posted on the forum in a while because I was getting my CDL, (again) and just landed a local job. (like today) This is my 2 cents sir.


    If you won't be homeless, do the cheaper, longer school at the community college. You'll get more education, which is never a bad thing, and college credit for the courses. Well, at least I did etc. (14 credits at that) For example, if you ever decided to become a grease monkey, (Diesel Tech) you probably need at least a CDL B to test drive what you're working on.



    I was faced with a similar choice a few months back; just like you are now. There are two schools where I live out here in the middle of nowhere. The 3 week $3500 one and the 16 week PTDI certified college course which I spent maybe $500 in total for. I could of afforded either one. Both would of gotten me my CDL A again, but in the latter I got to drive like 10 different kinds of trucks, flatbeds unloaded and loaded, split axle, single axle, 28-53' vans, 10, super 10, 13 speed transmissions etc, and the school would even change up the tractors and trailers so you REALLY had to learn backing maneuvers. (not just a single truck with "tricks" to pass the state test) I even got to drive a set of doubles for 6 hours - stuff I never got to do back in the late 90's when I "hung it up" the first time. (I was young, stupid, drove for C.R. England etc) Your college might be a little better or worse; there isn't any way for me to know, but I bet it's better if my example is the median.



    When I went "job shopping," I'm fairly convinced the extra hands on training, the PTDI cert etc helped me land a local tanker job when I showed them my extensive driver portfolio. (which I learned to make in the class - would a 3 week course do this? Probably not) Yes, I feel very lucky right now not to have another OTR job and I think I made the right choice even though it didn't feel like it at the time.



    Because I had a year's prior experience OTR, well back before the Dinosaurs died out lol, I could of gone the expensive/fast route, but I would of missed out on some great opportunities to learn more about the (modern) industry, to say nothing of the extra training. I was still really bored the last 8ish weeks though and just wanted to test out; like 2+ months of pre-tripping trucks for 1 to 2 hours a day for 4 days a week gets old. Heh, I was dreaming about driving/backing/pre-trippin' nearly every night by the time I tested out.



    I hope this helps you make a decision. My last tip is once you get your CDL A, don't be an idiot like me and give it up thinking you'll never drive again. You never know; trust me on this.
     
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  6. rpad139

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    If I had choice I would of went to the community college. Got my cdl in 2.5 weeks through a diploma mill.I'm a slow learner so I struggled with backing when I was with my trainer. Cc trucking school is the way to go.
     
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  7. 12String

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    Ended up enrolling in Ptec (Pinellas Technical Education Center here in St. Pete, FL), local votec. It's the 9 week program I mentioned. After a lot more research and a visit to the campus there, figured I'd skip the 3 week Roadmaster cram course. Class starts July 7th, I'll post a weekly update on how it's going, for anyone that's interested in this type of program vs. the private schools like Roadmaster. Thanks for all the advice everyone!
     
  8. Old MP

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    I'll toss my two cents into the wishing well also. Training is training and the type that best works for you is what you need to choose. This is based on what you know about yourself. You know how well you usually pick up on things, you know your basic skills, you know you better than anyone else. So, which are "you" more comfortable with? For me, I could go with the private school (3 to 4 week) course and be comfortable enough to know that I can be successful in the cab. Of course no company is going to just put you out there, your going to go through their orientation and training programs before solo. You know what you can do so look at it from that angle and decide.

    As for cost, I would contact my local VA rep (state or federal) and ask what they can do to help. They may fund the cheaper of the two, or give you the choice of desired training, either way it's funded. You have to go to them though, they don't come to you. It's free to ask and a "No" answer won't kill you. WIA is an option. In my home state and county (Georgia) the WIA funds are dwindling but again it's free to ask. Either of these options, as well as any other public funded avenue is going to take some leg work and patience. Government (Federal/State/Local) likes a lot of paperwork and to work slow at processing this paper work.

    And as I tell everyone that asks, don't go in debt for schooling if you can avoid it. You come out of training deeper in debt than before you went in and have another monthly committment that takes away from your ability to sustain yourself and family. Just look at all the college graduates screaming at the government to help them with their student loans. They got the degree, they got the debt but they did not get the "right out of college" high paying job that was alluded to if you just get your degree.

    I wish you the best in whatever you do. And remember, if it sounds too good to be be true, it probably is.

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  9. 12String

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    Ok, first week of school down, thought I'd drop a quick update with thoughts:

    For any that have the community college or tech school route available, do it instead of Roadmaster if you can. My class is a 9 week (normally a 6 week, but there's a break in there) compared to the 3 week Roadmaster. I visited the Roadmaster here in Tampa, so I'm only going from online research and that visit, but here goes so far:

    Roadmaster about 30 students crammed through in 3 weeks. Ptec 10 students (provided none drop out) in 6 weeks. This gives more 1 on 1 with instructors, more drive time, etc.

    Roadmaster 40 hours road time. I read only about 10 is actual drive time, the rest you're 'observing while seat-swapping with other students. Ptec 1000 miles road driving by the end of the course. In fact, the last 2-3 weeks are pretty much all driving. Also one night trip at Ptec, and they hope for at least one rainy day trip.

    We were in the trucks and driving the range on the 4th day of class. (One speed, some backing and stopping practice.) Still, I shared a truck with one other guy and swapped out every 15 or so, got 2 hours driving so far. they switch you up with a different partner each day for pretrip and driving. Much fun. Not sure on Roadmaster. I've heard it can be hard to get as much range time as you want due to the student count.

    I wasn't eligible for VA assistance, didn't want to wait for WIA grant, and Ptec doesn't do any student loan programs, but I did apply for their trust fund, which is basically a grant from the school based on financial need. It's case by case. Grant approved, all 2400.00 cost covered in full! Very grateful. Roadmaster will finance the 6500.00 at 18% (with a cosigner if required) Glad I avoided that. In my particular situation, the grant was a godsend.

    Ptec schedule 7:30-3 Mon-Thurs. I think Roadmaster was 6-6 Monday-Friday (or Sat...)

    Fantastic instructors @ Ptec, with decades of real world driving experience each. Can't speak to RM, but the low student count makes it a really easygoing atmosphere with the instructors here.

    The non-driving stuff (reading, quizzes) can be done on the school computers, or you can log in a home and do it there. A combination will probably work best, it seems to me.

    Looking forward to next week. They add a new exercise to the driving each day, so it should be a lot of fun. Combination of day cabs and sleepers, maybe 6 range trucks in all? Then I think 3-4 w/trailers that they use for the other class that's out on the road all day. (They run two classes at a time, the other was in their 5th week and gone most of the day while we're there, in their road driving phase.)

    Anyway, not much since it's only my 1st week, but hopefully the info helps someone!
     
  10. texmade2

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    I am going to RAYNA CDL cost is $1500.00 here in San Antonio, got my permit the first day which is today, hope to go oil field.
     
  11. 12String

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    2nd week down. Lots of opportunity to drive, but my advice is do the classroom stuff (reading and online quizzes) at home so you have as much time to drive as possible. Each day we add something new to driving. So far: upshifting, downshifting, split-shifting, and coupling, in that order. Also in there, excercises like backing, starting with no rollback on a hill, serpentine backing, etc. Were also going to start towing, but not all students felt comfortable with coupling/uncoupling yet, so that's put off to next week. Getting a couple hours range driving a day after factoring in breaks, pre-tripping (which is getting faster with repetition) and slip seating with 1 or 2 other students.

    Still very happy with the school so far. The 7:30-3 schedule is really nice, and the pace doesn't feel too rushed.
     
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