Current stats from the Feds on where the Oil comes from....... BTW it is also priced on the open market....
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/...ons/company_level_imports/current/import.html
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Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by Cybergal, Apr 28, 2008.
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That is what really needs to be looked at. Not all of our oil is imported oil subject to these inflated prices. The domestic oil is restricted barrel prices. It seems the oil companies may have found ways to bypass those laws. -
Classic misunderstanding of oil companies in general. (Based on 2006), Saudia Arabia is the world's larger PRODUCER of oil in the world. Russia is #2. The US is #3. Then there are a host of other countries that are producers. Which OIL COMPANY owns the oil produced in Saudia Arabia?
By the way, the US is the largest consumer of oil in the world by almost 2:1 over China (#2), yet China has the largest world population, almost 4:1 over the US. The US as an oil producer exports no oil and imports about 60% of what we consume, the majority from Canada and Mexico.
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It is going to be painful, but the only solution to our current problems will require a return of price controls and rationing, with extreme taxation at the highest levels of "income."
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Marxism, socialism,communism never has and never will work, period.
Why in the world would anyone knowingly give the gov't anymore power over ones self than they already have?
And oh by the way, wage and price controls were imposed in the 70's.
Result 17% plus inflation, high unemployment.
If marxism or communism is your cup of tea Hugo Chavez would probably
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Calling it "Marxism, socialism or communism" doesn't make it so. Nevertheless, unless you are advocating the complete revocation of ALL taxes and ALL controls on the economy, then we differ only in the degree to which we think such "socialism" is justifiable.
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Wrong again. I did NOT say revocation of ALL taxes....anywhere.
We differ in more than "degree". Socialism/marxism/communism gives the gov't ALL the money control, therefore ALL "people" control. Incrementalism is a tactic the politicians have used for nearly 60 years.
As stated earlier, read the communist manifesto! Compare it to The/our Constitution.
The gov't CANNOT even manage the farce known as "social security" much less "oil".
What you would be allowing to happen is for a bunch of idiots that CANNOT get a real job and make ends meet, without taking from some to give to others.
Taxing only discourages investing. That is a FACT!
How someone/anyone wants things to work does not mean that is how it works. Opinion does NOT make fact!
Anytime the gov't says "we're going to give".... they mean they are going to take.
The gov't produces NOTHING! But obstacles.
There has to be a gov't to protect and defend. But NOT to have control of the people, or businesses.
And if you really believe they don't have an agenda....and that agenda is NOT for your benefit. Nor mine. Nor the country. It is about THEM.
They could care less if you have to pay $1000.00 a gallon for milk as long as they make you believe they care.... B S !
Any time the gov't gets involved whatever they get involved in becomes more expensive. History tells that. Recent history I might add. -
If you read my post, which you quoted, you will note that I said UNLESS you advocate the revocation of all taxes. Thank you for saying that you don't. So now, as I also said earlier, we differ only in the degree to which we think taxes should be levied and the amount of control government should have over certain things.
You paint me as a socialist. Personally, I really don't care, other than to point out that ALL taxation is socialism, to one degree or another. But in point of fact, what you are describing is fascism or totalitarianism -- neither of which I subscribe to.
I suppose I would describe myself as a "cooperativist." But labels really don't interest me.
As for "...gives government all money control," that ship has already sailed. You have no money which is not controlled by the government. I'm not saying that's a good thing (stop reading into my posts that which I have not said), it's simply a fact. -
Read maybe you can come uo with the right answer.
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I was asking for opinion and analysis -- the "right" answer may not be contained in the original situation. There may be several "right" answers, or there may be none at all. This is a purely intellectual exercise. Are you unwilling to consider ideas that conflict with your own paradigm?
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we differ only in the degree to which we think taxes should be levied and the amount of control government should have over certain things
Less is better. ALWAYS! The federal government has stuck it's collective nose way too far into "control". And as far as "labeling".... I consider myself a "free thinker". And yes I am hung up on "ism's" when they espouse "taking away from INDIVIDUALS". And if you believe that ain't what "taxing" is about you need to re-visit the Constitution and why it was created. FREEDOM from an oppressive gov't.
Are you aware of just how much EXXON/MOBIL pay in tax?
Are you aware of how much I pay in tax?
Not percentages, just raw dollars?
Are EXXON/MOBIL paying too much? No I don't think so.
Am I paying too much? No I don't think so.
But neither of us is getting our "dollars worth", which is why I am totally against "more" in any way,shape,fashion or form.
If and that is a BIG IF this gov't ever learns to control it's appetite for "control and power" then we can re-visit taxes.
Until that time I will be against and speak out against any more taxes/control that a few "elitist" promise will "make it all better".
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