I guess you know better. You probably can speak to the issue's better than he can. He's only a retired Berkley University professor, with the knowlege and experiance, deep in the seat of affirmitive action, Berkley it's self. When your through laughing at em. Give us your take on the issue.
Better yet "forget about it", were probable better off staying on the subject of favorite companies.
Schneider National Carriers - Green Bay, Wi.
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But yeah, lets look at his stuff:
For one, all he is doing is pointing out research and facts that anyone can look up, but thats beside the point....or is it?
Sex education should start with mom and end with dad. Schools should have it as part of a health class, but they shouldn't get involved to the point of handing out condoms and such. That will only make the problem worse.
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This guy has some great thoughts, and I really like how he tries to give some solutions. If we had more "puzzle fixers" instead of complainers, we would get alot done. It can either go wrong, or right, 2 ways, and if it goes wrong, there will be another to try to fix it,...
But anyway, It is totally true about pushing people through the system, example, look at our low-income housing problem. He does make some great points, and valid points as well.
I grew up in NE (North East) PA. I moved and lived in the deep south for almost 11 years. And I have to tell you, I will never, ever, EVER live there again. I will not eat at any restaurants, EVER, from GA to LA.
There is several case studies that I found through the magazine "Scientific America" that shows how the Black IQ's are declining. All the other nationalities, especially the Mexican/Puerto Rican's are hugely gaining up on the Oriental/White's. I think I read about 3-4 different studies that were taken based on the last 30 years.
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There may be reasonable arguments on other subjects. Affirmitive action is the main point for this dicussion. Marty supports his position based on knowlege and extensive experiance. I supported his position with "my experiance" in one particular incident, chemistry class; THE SCHOOL FORCED THE CHEMISTRY INSTRUCTOR TO PASS MINORITIES SO THAT THEY COULD GET INTO NURSING SCHOOL, and the professor was furious. What is not clear, and true about this statement. These observations are undeniable. What must he say to convince u. What must I say to convince u. Must I give you the name of the college and the chemistry professor and the renowned Univerisity he instructed at. Stop the attempt to discredit good information. Use it as a tool to analyize the world around us. If u don't like the info through it out. I was addressing "AFFIRMITIVE ACTION" from the beginning. You cloud the issue with discussion on EVERYTHING under the sun. -
Anywho, what you describe in the affirmative action issues are a small, rare thing. It doesnt happen all over. Just as your issue happens, so does Whitey McWhite when he can't pass a test to save his life but his daddy comes to save the day. Some people earn their way, some people sue their way, and others maniuplate the system in other ways. People of any color, race can play the system, be it your skin color, your nationality, religion, appearance, weight, height...etc.
You complain about affirmative action and such, and he mentions little about NCLB. The way it is designed (which he apparently doesnt mention) is, schools lose federal funding if they don't acheive certain levels. Well, it doesnt help if Bobby, whose parents don't make him study or do any homework or learning of any kind at home, fails. So schools often pass failing students because if they don't, they will potentially lose funding.
The only problem that this causes in regards to affirmative action are two-fold. It ensures that companies are more balanced out in terms of who they have working for them, and also as a negative, it creates stereotypes and racism. "well he is Black so that means he must have affirmative actioned his way into medical school" "oh well she is a mexican, so not only is she illegal because of that, but she must have affirmative actioned her way into her job"...blah blah blah. God forbid people actually earn their way. But yea, lets quote a guy who says he was forced to pass minorities. Makes it sound like he had to pass everyone, AS IF everyone was failing? He didn't say some, or most, or whites...he just said minorities. That in itself is on the border of a racist statement.
Fourteenthly...he said he was forced to pass them. I don't nkow about you, but as an educator with a moral obligation and ethics and values, I wouldn't be forced to pass anyone. Id sure fire quit if they said that to me. I wouldn't last long enough to say that they forced me. If I quit, that means I didn't say yes'm to them only to stay employed. -
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where the he11 am I......?????
Isn't this a thread about Schneider???........good/bad.... favorite trucking company???.....
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