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Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by sweeze, May 10, 2008.

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  1. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    Howdy James!
    Welcome to the forums as a poster. :biggrin_255:

    Your suggestion that Sweeze try lookin' into haulin' grain sounds good on the surface, and might be a good way to getcher drivin' foot in the door in Nebraska, but if you notice, Sweeze is in the Pacific Northwest --"West" being the key word here.

    I live on the left coast also, and have found that many such drivin' jobs as you've suggested are goin' to those folks who only take the jobs NO American wants -- like drivin' construction and farm Big trucks. We have been invaded by our neighbors south of the border -- who will not only take those jobs FROM Americans, but they'll do the jobs for far less pay than an American NEEDS to make ends meet.

    Americans are shunned in favor of the cheaper labor, and a woman, unfortunately, can expect to be ignored all together. I reckon they figure why hire ONE driver when they can hire TWO drivers for the same price -- as those two drivers they DO hire, send much of their paycheck "home" to Mexico, which only worsens OUR economy -- as the employer continues to reap higher profits as a result.

    I've heard it said that Life Ain't Always Fair.
    Seems the same now holds true for the Big truck truckin'industry. American WannaBees and NewBees -- need not apply. :biggrin_25513:


     
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  3. Flyer

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    Let's look at this another way... Why is Swift putting drivers with 3 months experience on high value loads in the first place ?
     
  4. junipersage

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    Please enlighten me regarding "High Value" loads. How are they defined, what are the rules and regulations governing them, how "frequent" are they??

    A question from a Maybe = one just tryin' to learn. :biggrin_25519:

    Thanks
     
  5. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    Kinda makes one go
    Hmmmmmmmmmmm ----
    don't it. :biggrin_25524:
     
  6. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    There could be more or less definitions of a HV. And I doubt that all requirements have to be met

    1. some that once stolen can be easily moved, Nike an Jordan shoes for example, watches, make up and jewelry, tires

    2. $1 million or more


    Once I had 7 million worth of an 11 million dollar piece of machinery. It wasn't considered HV or at least I wasn't told it was. It was not some thing that could be easily moved off the trailer (required two forklifts at the same time or a crane) and once unloaded what are the thieves gonna do with a metal lathe for aero space industry?
     
  7. GasHauler

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    I was local and delivered gasoline and diesel. So I guess you like having fuel?? Only kidding. I perfered local and being home with my family. I considered my job a step up from what I (me) ever did OTR because of the pay and benefits. I liked OTR but I didn't like being away while my son was growing up. I also didn't like not getting paid for all my time.

    Some people love that type of work and I would never criticize them for doing it. However some JOBS or Companies are better than others no matter how you look at them but you can never say one type of driving is better than the other.
     
  8. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I get VERY bored with the same routine over and over!!!!

    And hauling gas isn't for me as I don't have enough patience. Don't knock me for it, I'm just being honest. And my hat is off to those that have the nerves to ride around with a 10,000 gallon bomb strapped on their butt all day.
     
  9. AfterShock

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    Excellent question JuniperSage.

    Brickman gave some good examples, as he usually does -----
    Here are a few more:

    Cigarettes
    Electronics
    Adult beverages
    Designer clothes
    Motorcycles
    Gaming devices (Slot Machines)
    Firearms
    Government loads.
    Explosives
    Auto parts
    Chemicals (especially those used to manufacture illegal drugs)
    Prescription drugs


    And, in Mexico --- shoes.
    There have been so many truckloads of shoes hi-jacked, that now they ship left shoes separately
    from the right shoes -- on separate Big trucks.
    It's twue!
    It's twue! :yes2557:

    How frequently a Big truck truck driver get these loads depends.
    Generally, with the larger truckin' companies, a driver may seldom see High-Value loads.
    However -------

    If y'all have plans to be movin' on up in the Big truck truckin' industry, companies that specialize in Hi-Val commodities will see a steady diet of big-buck loads.
    That was the gig I found.
    Pad-wrap was VERY common, ergo, I always had at LEAST 150 -- 200 furniture pads in the belly box of the trailer. Along with 150, or more, motorcycle straps and 3/4 inch plywood and load bars to erect a full decking.

    A full load of Harleys or Dugattis and a driver could get hurt by someone wanting them.

    Also, I'd be SUPER careful with ANY Haz-Mat load.
    Not so much because of fear of theft, but the EPA might frown on such a load being parked in a neighborhood.
     
  10. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    Not to mention, at four bucks a gallon, a load of fuel is easy money and even easier to unload -- into storage tanks.

    $4 X 10,000 gallons = ..... well, y'all do the math.
     
  11. sweeze

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    I guess I don't really feel like it was their fault, flyer. They sent me all the info attached to the LA. I just didnt thoroughly understand how serious it was.

    I think maybe they should have written me up with a first and final warning. In fact that is what they said they were going to do. My DM told me over the qualcom that I needed to come back to the terminal cuz i was going to get written up. It was no big deal, just a formality to ensure I would never do it again. But it was a lie just to get me there. Once inside the office, I was immediately fired and stripped of my key.
    I had been totally ambushed. It wasnt necessary. I have never lied to them about anything. But i suppose drivers have abandoned the truck in the past when told they were getting fired.

    In some ways I feel better. I didnt really like it there very much.

    Some of the rules at Swift for HV loads were:
    1.NO stopping within 200 mi of the shipper. (that means you better pee and eat before hand)
    2.You have to have at least 1/2 tank of fuel (again so you dont have to stop)
    3.You need to make sure you have enough hours to get the thing there. They don't want to have to re-power the load off onto someone else cuz you didnt manage your time properly.
    4.If you are a team, someone stays with the load at all times.
    5. No going home.
    6. No unhooking from the trailer.
     
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