CH Robinson confirmation rate

The rate is part of the confirmation. If a rate isn't on the confirmation then you don't have the load. I would never accept a load without the rate being plainly printed on it. I don't recall ever receiving a rate confirmation from CH Robinson that didn't have the rate on it.

 

You can negotiate any rate with them. If you get the rate agreement that means you have already accepted the load.

These are good for flatbed freight

Mercer
Pittsburgh Logistics
Trinity Logistics
Tennessee Steel Haulers
Meadow Lark

 

The time to negotiate is before the rate confirmation is sent.

 

I've never seen a rate confirmation that lists the broker's profits. Now if you are a contractor or employee working for a fixed percentage, then you would need to see that, but not as an independent.

 

Read the Federal Regulations on brokers:

If you request the broker must show you all documents pertaining to a broker contract including the rate they got from the shipper.

[h=3]§ 371.3: Records to be kept bybrokers.[/h](a) A broker shall keep a record of each transaction. Forpurposes of this section, brokers may keep master lists of consignors and theaddress and registration number of the carrier, rather than repeating thisinformation for each transaction. The record shall show:
(1) The name and address of the consignor;
(2) The name, address, and registration number of the originating motorcarrier;
(3) The bill of lading or freight bill number;
(4) The amount of compensation received by the broker for the brokerage serviceperformed and the name of the payer;
(5) A description of any non-brokerage service performed in connection witheach shipment or other activity, the amount of compensation received for theservice, and the name of the payer; and
(6) The amount of any freight charges collected by the broker and the date ofpayment to the carrier.
(b) Brokers shall keep the records required by this section for a period ofthree years.
(c) Each party to a brokered transaction has the right to review the record ofthe transaction required to be kept by these rules.


§ 371.9:Rebating and compensation.
(a) A brokershall not charge or receive compensation from a motor carrier for brokerageservice where:
(1) The broker owns or has a material beneficial interest in the shipment or
(2) The broker is able to exercise control over the shipment because the brokerowns the shipper, the shipper owns the broker, or there is common ownership ofthe two.
(b) A broker shall not give or offer to give anything of value to any shipper,consignor or consignee (or their officers or employees) except inexpensiveadvertising items given for promotional purposes.

 

If they have sent a rate confirmation, you have already negotiated a rate; It would be dishonorable to attempt to reopen rate negotiations unless something in the confirmation is not as discussed.

Now if you are first calling on a load and they throw out a price, I consider that the floor and negotiate accordingly.

Should you accept a rate? If it does not advance your business, no. Likewise say no if you think another load can do more to advance your business.

 

I am just not that much of a flea market shopper. I ask them the best rate they can pay and I have a range of what I will haul it for. Win, lose or draw. If they hit my magic number range I will book it and if they don't I just say thanks and find another load. They will sometimes come back with a rate and then ask if it is what I need and want to haggle over the rate. Nope, my question was what is the best rate you can pay. Obviously, if they are willing to haggle they aren't giving me the best rate on the load.

I have a good broker I have worked with for years with them and he has always given me the best he could pay. I only run into this mess if it is an office he can't book a load out of. I always check with him first and he will tell me what the other office has previously paid on the load.