Are we days or even hours away from a DOT audit...?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by nuvagrad, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. Neverready

    Neverready Medium Load Member

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    No you cannot go back and correct logs legally. EOBR electronic on board recorder is a term for electronic log books. You need to set up a review process starting now documenting what you are doing proactively to correct possible safety violations. You should have drivers files which should contain driving records, medical qualifications, pre employment drug screen tests, random drug screens, they should include evidence of training such as the logbook session. If after the session drivers continue to have issues with correctly filling out logbooks that should be noted, evidence of driver being informed of the possible infactions and any remedial actions taken. That's just the beginning of the process, your learning curve is going to be steep. You are going to also need equipment files showing maintenance and inspection records. Personally I wouldn't recommend going to EOBR until you've got your other ducks in a row. They can be expensive to buy and install you've got enough problems just getting the drivers properly informed and their files in order. Post accident drug screening is not new it's been a apart of trucking for years. Can help you show your drivers were not impaired at time of incident.
    don't panic yet if you show your trying to get things straightened out they are unlikely to shut you down until they do a second intervention and find no improvement. Fines if issued can be appealed and reductions requested.
     
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  3. nuvagrad

    nuvagrad Bobtail Member

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    Thank you neverready, I really appreciate it. I wrote down some of what you said to start doing it right away. Could you recommend an audit checklist or guide? I have found these three but not sure which one to focus on or I should try to do all:

    http://www.layover.com/features/feat...t-022908.html/

    http://www.jjkeller.com/wcsstore/CVC...t_07-23-14.pdf

    http://www.worktruckonline.com/chann...dot-audit.aspx
     
  4. bigdogpile

    bigdogpile Road Train Member

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    You should be prepared for an audit at anytime.But most likely you will just have an inspection,what the feds look for are patterns,and patterns of errors may not be fined as high as patterns of complete disrecard for the laws and will result in higher fines.Part of "having" a busisness license is you agree to show them your "records" at anytime..And no you cannot correct a drivers log after it has been turned into you..Please read the fine print under the drivers signature on the log page..
     
  5. Big Don

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    Nuvagrad, what I'm seeing from your posts, is that you have been given a job that you don't have the experience to be doing. It happens. First off, DO NOT PANIC. Do the best you can, do your research, (which obviously you are doing,) and take things one step at a time. If you try to do everything at once, you won't get anything done well. It is going to take you some time, but keep in mind that your company knew, (or should have known,) that you were not up to speed on this job, when they hired you.

    You are going to be working some very long hours here, to try to get up to speed. Try not to let it get to you, too much. Things will get better, the more knowledge you gather, and the better able you are to do your job, the less midnight oil you will have to be burning.

    You should be finding out very quickly here, if this is a company that you want to stay with or not. If they back you on things, if they make necessary changes, then they are probably well worth working for. OTOH, if they are dumping on you, and blaming you for everything, then they may have hired you to be a scapegoat for any audits. Unfortunately, this type of crap does happen. But hopefully, they really are trying to get things together and do business in a professional manner.

    Good Luck!
     
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  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    look I will make it simple for you, call up JJ Keller's consulting services, have them help you - pay for their help and get them to make sure you are compliant.

    If your company is too cheap to spring for proper consulting services, then let them get fined and let them deal with their stupid mistake of not getting it fixed because this may be the only way to fix the problems.
     
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  7. Neverready

    Neverready Medium Load Member

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    Have to agree with Ridgeline in that you should consider a professional consultant to get you up to speed. They have helped others in your position and know how to deal with inspections. Once you are up to speed you'll be able to keep things up on a daily basis and keep in touch with your consultants as needed. I don't have a particular recommendation but Keller has been around for years.
     
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    nuvagrad Bobtail Member

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    Before I was here they got a consultant but he mostly told them to read the fmcsa book front to back and put together like a half a dq file. I bet jj keller will do better. I'll talk to them soon. What really seems helpful is knowing how the audit is split up. I read there are a couple different types of audits but the one where the auditor actually comes is split up into different parts, factors I read.

    I have read there are 6 factors but I cant find anything about that on the fmcsa site. Can anyone help?
     
  9. nuvagrad

    nuvagrad Bobtail Member

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    You are right thanks. I have experience coming up with solutions to just about any problems but usually got time on my side. I have burned some midnight oil the last few days and caught up on the energy bar with 9 hours of sleep last night.

    I have been keeping a very close eye on everything that is not being done correctly so I know all the details in case they try to use me as a scapegoat. I dont think they will, the owner is finally taking some time to pay more attention to this himself but business is business right?
     
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  10. Ridgeline

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    Like I said get them involved, they won't play games but cost money. Don't talk to them, hire them and get things started.

    Otherwise you will be going around in circles to figure out things that they can show you quickly.
     
  11. nuvagrad

    nuvagrad Bobtail Member

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    Hi trucking community, JJ Keller will charge $5,000 for a 2 day audit consultation. Can anyone refer me to anyone else? We are on the west coast and I was looking for a phone consultation first instead of someone coming in and saying everything is a mess, you need to prepare all these documents, we'll come back when you've done some of this to do a final check. That was this company's experience with a consultant before so they want to try virtual help first.

    And things are getting organized, JJ Keller gave me some resources that I was already using to get organized. I've been working a lot and have figured out a lot. Thanks for the help on here.
     
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