EOBR options for older trucks

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by zx150, Dec 31, 2014.

  1. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    its not eld compliant without ecm hookup of some type
     
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  3. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    I got an email from Rand mcnally the other, they have a second box that ties to the truck, and makes the gps head unit ELD-compliant.
     
  4. skateboardman

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    because the second box ties into thr data port of the ecm, they sell that unit at truckstops.
     
  5. zx150

    zx150 Medium Load Member

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    What all information do the black boxes get from the truck? Just vehicle and engine speed? Only asking because both my speedometer and tach use an electronic signal so there's got to be some way to get the black box to talk to the truck.
     
  6. Cowpie1

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    I guess in all of this, it is worrying about something that no one has any major answers to. There may be a solution, there may be an exemption, who knows. I am beginning to wonder if those who have a dog in this hunt, i.e. a pre-ECM engine, are not just letting their paranoia getting the better of them. It is similar to those worrying about if some global cabal is running things and we are all going to be reduced to slave labor. Something will be sorted out, and they are not going to demand that every truck that does not have an ECM be scrapped and replaced with an ECM equipped engine powered truck. The amount of pre-ECM engines still running around hauling freight that would even be subject to ELD's is so small, I would bet the powers that be just make an exemption on the equipment side of things and rely on something that can just GPS the location of the truck.

    I am not sure why the FMCSA seems all fired concerned about whether a record is made of when a truck starts or the hours on the engine. It really doesn't affect anything. If a person starts a truck and lets it idle for 10 hours, how would that mean anything regarding HOS? Just whether it moves. Either way, some folks are just getting their shorts in a wad worrying too much about it.
     
  7. stadingfarms

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    I'm awaiting the news on this too. I run an 88 mack which has a cable running the tach and the speedometer so no tapping into sensors.
     
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  8. old time

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    I've read FMCSA doesn't accept GPS or tablet/smartphone solutions because there are still areas of the country that don't have signals. Not sure what you can do with a mechanical engine/no ecm. Good question
     
  9. stadingfarms

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    The cadac system doesn't require an ecm but they've been obsolete for years. Where I use to work they had them in the late eights until 2000 and the first trucks they where on was a 79 cl9000 Ford
     
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  11. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Depends on the system, and the way it is set up, on ours (XATA) I can retrieve idle time, hard brake incidents, rollover warnings, over speed, cruise percentage, MPG, driver performance, IFTA miles for each state, plus all driver logging times, plus some other crap.

    Basically we just use the logging portion, GPS data, IFTA data, and MPG, I don't look at driver performance data unless there is a reason, ie, poor mileage, frequent stops, speeding ticket, premature brake/tire wear etc.
     
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