Getting used to operating at night...any advice for downtime routine and sleep?

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  1. bubbagumpshrimp

    bubbagumpshrimp Medium Load Member

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    I'm a few weeks in at my first trucking gig. I'm really liking the job so far. For my first couple of months...I'll be working nights. My issue is that the transition from a day schedule to a night one is kicking my ***. I have the discipline to "call it a night" and lay down during the day and try to get eight hours sleep prior to going to work. My biggest problem at the moment is timing my previous sleep cycle (the post-work sleep from the previous day) so that it won't interfere with my ability to get to sleep prior to the upcoming work shift.

    In my younger days (military)...the general advice for this type of change was "sleep when you're tired...and eat when you're hungry." That worked for me 10 years ago (early 20's)...it's not working for me at the moment. If I did that tonight (the "sleep when you're tired" bit)....I'd sleep straight through till at least 0900, be up all day, and be lucky to get a brief nap in prior to my shift tomorrow evening.

    I tend to start my shifts between 0130 and 0200. Tomorrow...I'll be going in at 2100. I get up 1.5 hours prior to my shift to allow time for "snooze" time, shower, getting dressed, food prep, commute, etc. That's far more time than I should need to accomplish those things, but until I'm confident that I can get up and moving quickly...I'll continue to pad my "morning" routine.

    In order to get around eight hours sleep for tomorrow evenings shift...I would have to go to sleep around 1130. To try something different...my current thought is to attempt to stay up all night...and to crash somewhere in the 1000-1130 range. The alternative would be to attempt a short nap...stay up for the rest of the time....and then go to sleep at 1130. I don't see that last plan working, as I'll likely just hit the "snooze" button and sleep in.

    I would appreciate any advice that people might have about getting used to a different sleep schedule. Thank you.
     
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  3. Skydivedavec

    Skydivedavec Medium Load Member

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    I wish I could help you but it kicks my butt too. I'll stay tuned to this thread with you for the answer. Good question, should make for a good thread.

    I know when I don't get sufficient sleep prior to a shift a nap during the mandatory does wonders. A brisk walk is helpful too, but no substitute for sleep. It's a constant challenge, it seems.
     
  4. miss elvee

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    I'm not going to lie. The first day is the tough one. As a long time 'vampire' driver, I don't have all the answers, but I might have a few.

    My advice: if you can hang with staying up all night the day before, do it. And do things that wear you out. Wash the truck, polish your wheels, rake leaves, shovel snow... whatever. Every time you think you're going to fall asleep before you need to, go take a walk or a shower. Make yourself darn thankful when it is time to climb in the rack and zonk.

    If you don't have time to prep like that, it is considerably harder. We, as human beings, are not programmed to be awake at night and sleep during the day. Being in front of the curtain after daybreak is a killer for me. My body dumps all kinds of chemicals on my brain in reaction to the sunlight to wake me up and I find it hard to unwind enough to sleep.

    If you absolutely can't sleep, you need to be super careful. Those hours between 0300-0500 are rough. Exercise. Water. Gum. Nap on your break. Moving your seat to something safe but unfamiliar. Audio books. Clenching and relaxing muscles in the seat. Rolling the window down. Chewing sunflower seeds. Doing trip math in your head. Calling your honey. There's a million little tricks. But none of them - not one- work half as well as a good night's sleep. Too much caffeine and energy drinks/shots and chain smoking only make it worse in the end.

    So, do yourself a favor, beat yourself up and go without the sleep the day before you start your shift. That way, if you do fall asleep a little earlier than you intended, you don't have 80k pounds behind you.
     
  5. miss elvee

    miss elvee Heavy Load Member

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    Oh, and for all you companies trolling these forums...

    Night drivers should NEVER be required to train, take a pee test or jump through any of your other stupid flaming hoops during the day while we're trying to sleep. Leave us alone, or we'll log it on duty. Where's your hot load goin' then?

    *cough*
    Ok, I feel better now.

    *drags away soap box and gets back in truck*
     
  6. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    I use to drive nights. I got pretty good at being able to set my alarm for 13 minutes and actually got a good little snooze in there. Although it was mountain driving, so there was lots of shifting and steering to help keep me awake.
     
  7. The Challenger

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    I used to have these problems as well. For the first few nights do what miss elvee said as far as activities. Then when your about to drive, make up a big thermos of coffee. Soda doesn't cut it as you'll up but quickly come down. Straight black my friend. When your about a couple hours prior to your shift ending, switch over to water.

    KH
     
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  8. miss elvee

    miss elvee Heavy Load Member

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    If nothing else the urge to pee will help keep you up. :)
     
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  9. bubbagumpshrimp

    bubbagumpshrimp Medium Load Member

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    I will give that a try. I'll make myself a "to do" list for Monday of things to accomplish when I get out of work. If I do that...as you said...it should help me keep awake and my mind thinking about things other than how comfortable my bed is, lol.

    They've got me started out doing yard dog stuff, so those hours aren't bad for me at the moment. In that timeframe...I'll be in and out of the truck 10+ times...hook, backup, and unhook 5+ trailers, etc. That's not counting manual labor and walking around the dock. I take a single five hour energy before my shift and that generally carries me through till 0800 pretty well. Other than that...I just drink water, as I'm not a soda or coffee person.
     
  10. Wind Walker

    Wind Walker Bobtail Member

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    I came off the road in 03 when my company closed down and took a night shift line haul job. I like to think I was a pretty hard runner, but line haul kicked my tail. That lasted about three weeks...had to quit before someone got hurt. Daycabs are awful...:biggrin_25524:
     
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  11. bubbagumpshrimp

    bubbagumpshrimp Medium Load Member

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    Yeah...I'm not typically a night person. I turned down a couple jobs that were strictly night driving (I knew it wouldn't work for me long-term). This night shift thing is just temporary for the company on-the-job training. The light at the end of the tunnel is that all of my driving (P&D) will be during the day. I just have to suck it up for another month or so and I'll be back to day shift hours.
     
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