Should truck driving schools score all carriers by record and share with students?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tahokid, Jan 24, 2015.

Do you think schools should score and inform students about prospective carriers

Poll closed Feb 23, 2015.
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    Yes

    9 vote(s)
    40.9%
  2. No

    13 vote(s)
    59.1%
  1. tahokid

    tahokid Light Load Member

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    Wow, I didnt know that, but yea that makes since as to why they wouldnt do it, they are bought and paid for by these crummy carriers in some cases. Number one really isnt the student in a case like that after all, but I do see your point. All I can say is thats sad.

    And as for the report card thing, thats a shame as well, because those carriers dont mind at all screwing your life over when it comes to your DAC. I think they should have a form of DAC as well.
     
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  3. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    Well I said "report card", but I was actually referring to your "scoring of potential employers", I just used different wording.

    I think all that perhaps a school "might want to do", is inform the students as where to go (online for instance) to gather information. But to say "go here, or go there", could be misconstrued as leading students to a paid sponsor of the school. Which in this case, Werner NOT being the best, may get more students than say a BETTER company like Schneider that visits the school as well, but gives NO MONEY to the school as sort of a "bribe" to get students. If one has to "bribe", then to me, they are as useless as teats to a bull.
     
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  4. strongbacks

    strongbacks Light Load Member

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    My school did, just not "officially"

    We got the honest low down on everybody
     
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  5. ac120

    ac120 Road Train Member

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    I voted no and here is why. All you will get from the school is opinions (I see you also got brochures; you're interested in dry bulk and you were given Swift/CRE/Werner brochures so how do you expect your school to sort "good" carriers from "bad" ones?), and you will have to weigh them yourself. You may get the truth, you may not. You may get honest answers that turn out to be wrong. You still have to make up your own mind--that is not the school's job, it is yours. You may be told a carrier is "great" and work for them and have a lousy experience.

    The school is not the only the only source of information for students! Judicious use of a search engine will help. Try, for example, "CR England lawsuit" or any carrier's name and "lawsuit." Or any permutation of search terms you can think of. You can read books about trucking and truck drivers. TTR is one of the best places to learn about carriers and drivers' experiences. Use this website. YouTube is another source--you'll find that many drivers love the life and that many don't. That many earn a good living and that many don't--the school can't grade carriers for you and predict which kind of driver you will be. That the industry has a history that goes back to the early 1900s. That people mention "1980 trucking deregulation" (Google it) for a reason. That the "driver shortage" first appeared in 1981--for a reason. That the federal HOS has been a double-edged sword since the regs hit the road in 1939. Don't say "That was then this is now." There are reasons why the industry is the way it is today. There's a lot to learn. The school can't do it all and if you want to learn you have to make the effort--you, not the school will be 100% responsible for whatever success you achieve. And please, if you go so far as to get out on the road, don't blame your trainer(s) for your mistakes. You are not an empty container into which your school can pour easy knowledge.
     
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  6. UKJ

    UKJ Heavy Load Member

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    Not sure if this is aimed at me or not, but I am interested in Dry Bulk and what I said is she purposely ignored the swift,werner, CRE, etc pamplets and only gave me Maverick, Schneider and a few others that pay well for newbies. She even was going to give me the app for the car hauler gig but I declined as I am not interested in that, I want to do Dry Bulk so my company choices are limited to a handful that specialize in that line of work.
     
  7. tahokid

    tahokid Light Load Member

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    Well based on the ops statement on company backed schools in allot of cases, I dont see allot of anything about any carrier ever coming out of the dark about them.

    I would never want any one schools opinion on any one carrier, but it would be nice to inform students that this business has ups and some really bad downs if they are not careful in their decision on carriers and that research on them good and bad are a must. Sites like this one are great, only if they have access to computer and internet.

    And Im not saying a school has to be responsible for your placement or your outcome in trucking as far as the carrier you choose that should always be the students decision.

    Youtube and google searches are great tools on good and bad about carriers, most definately.

    Well if I had my way( And I know I dont ) Id inform students about researching carriers and that THEY have a big decision to make, one that could cost them if they get it wrong. 75% of student dont make it their first year and they are gone. This could be avoided or reduced "IF" student were more aware of the darker areas of these carriers.

    I will add along with youtube, google search both good and bad, Id take a list of carriers like your find on www.truckjobseekers.com and Id go through them with a fine tooth comb search both good and bad on them, but under no way am I saying its the schools responsibility for any decision a student makes.

    I feel they just need to be informed that they have an important decision and it had better be researched real well if they plan on making in this Industry.
     
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  8. SHOJim

    SHOJim Road Train Member

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    Roadmaster gets a lot of old Werner trucks....
     
  9. TNMT

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    They can't cover every company. However they should post in a plain to see area the Federal Scores for all the companies they allow to recruit their students. Safety, longevity of students that go there, and the actual completion rate of student loans paid off by them and the retention rate of students who have had there loans paid off. If there is a fiduciary interest between the school and any particular company then it needs to be disclosed and plainly seen. If they are getting direct money or kick back then it should be mandatory that they make it known.

    I also think no company should be able to offer a pay back of loans as a condition of working for them for any period of time. Bet they would stop taking students as soon as that was law. Its about money folks.
     
  10. tahokid

    tahokid Light Load Member

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    I totally agree!
     
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    TNMT Light Load Member

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    Only the dishonest are scared of information.
     
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