Can a company mandate using sleeper status during 10 Hour Break

Don't even go there sunshine.

Let us know how you do if you ever get into an accident and are personally sued. Seems to me you think you know it all, when in fact you know sheet.

 

Wrong. Splitting the 10 hour break has nothing to do with whether or not you are a sleeper berth operation. A sleeper berth operation simply involves the use of a sleeper berth. If the company runs only day cabs, the regulations allow the graph grid the company uses to omit the line for sleeper berth because they have no sleeper berths available for their drivers to use. Any driver logging sleeper berth time while operating a truck with no sleeper berth would be falsifying his log, just like a driver who logs off duty while resting in the sleeper berth is falsifying his logs.

Arrogance gets you nowhere, because somebody else will always come around who's got a higher education or a broader vocabulary or a fatter bank account or a prettier wife or whatever it is you are trying to compare. You came in here asking a question, and you didn't get the answer you were looking for...so you argued. Now you're upset that everyone didn't agree with you and assume they are less educated. I'd bet dollars to donuts you aren't the most educated one around here.

You're correct, though...a college education is not a prerequisite for driving a truck. If you are implying that I do not have one, you are sorely mistaken. I spent 4 years at a state university and left with one of those BS degrees, and I'm not alone. There are people around here with advanced degrees, too. There are people driving trucks as a 2nd or sometimes even a 3rd career, after retiring from other lines of work or moving on to bigger and better things, offering a wide variety of expertise in varying fields beyond just truck driving. There are folks around here who are current or retired LEO's and even commercial vehicle enforcement officers who regularly read and contribute in these forums. There are even people around here who are or have been employed in the safety departments of various trucking companies, and people who have run their own trucking company for years. You would be amazed how many people there are around here who are well versed in the rules and regulations because it wasn't just their job to know them, but to argue with fools working for them who had a gross misunderstanding of the rules because they heard from some guy at the truck stop that such and such was or wasn't legal.

The flip side to that is there are also some who are ignorant, and others who are just stupid. There are people driving trucks who have failed in life, and drive a truck to avoid living in a van down by the river. It takes all kinds of kinds to make this world go 'round, and life would be a whole lot less interesting if not for the wide variety of differences among us.

 

Where does the FMCSA "specifically state" not to log sleeper berth time unless team driving or when splitting the 10 hour break? Please post that regulation, because I've read them more than a few times over the years and have a pretty good idea what all is in there, and that's one I have never come across.

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The question arises. If you are in the sleeper are you off duty or not? My company believes you ARE off duty even if you are in the sleeper. If you plan on doing a split though then you log sleeper for 8 then 2 any as off or sleeper. The intent of the company in this example is to force split breaks and run their drivers harder, THAT is why you don't log sleeper. 10 hours consecutive off duty regardless of where you are and what you are ding is sufficient ..... until they write some new regulations can get a more clear wording of the law. I use 10 one line 1 regularly and have never had an issue. I also use split breaks when needed and again never had an issue. Know how to explain your logic and you wont have an issue either. Just ask the DOT cop to prove you weren't off duty while you were in your sleeper sleeping.

 

dont sweat the small stuff
it is all small stuff
just log the way it looks ok at the scalehouse
paper or elog there is some kind of lie on every page

 

Well dagnabbit ya shoulda turned that thar libral arts degree loose on yer reg book before botherin us toithless folk with yer petty overthinkin .

Seiously tho, you didn't say you were on elogs in your op, then started blasting everyone that gave suggestions for paper (as if anyone is going to scour this thread to see if you updated it with complete info). You ask for help before reading the regs, then blast everyone for not reading the regs.

Yes, it just may be that you're a genius stuck in a field for the mentally challenged