Can a company mandate using sleeper status during 10 Hour Break

You just had to be off duty between 1am-5am. Could be at home or in your truck.

If you're unlucky enough to be taking a 34 restart out on the road, I've never been in the habit of bouncing back and forth between lines 1 and 2 in those instances. I would just leave it all on line 1.

 

Because...the regs do a poor (or perhaps purposely vague) job of explaining what logging practices are acceptable given certain scenarios and which ones are not acceptable. Otherwise there wouldn't be as much confusion in the first place if they pared down the obnoxious legalese and beefed up on clarification language, but I don't hold my breath for that to happen.

What's your take on Ubu's post #78 out of curiosity? Did something in fact change a couple years ago that now makes it okay for 1 ton hot shot guys to sleep in their back seats and not show sleeper berth time while on their 10 hour break? Because as far as I know they used to have to show a hotel receipt to stay legal while out on the road due to not actually having a vehicle equipped with sleeping quarters.

 

The change allowing team drivers to take the first or last 2 hours of their 10 in the passenger seat has no bearing on those who don't have a sleeper berth that I can see. No idea where that idea came from.

People read way too much into some of the rules.

 

Ah that's just thing, its really not obvious. I only knew to look in the guidance section because of my days in aviation and dealing those regs. If you think the DOT regs are bad you should go try to make a living under the federal aviation regs for a while. You'll run back to life with the DOT and thank them for being so easy on you

But if I didn't have that aviation experience in my past, I never would have thought to bother reading the guidance section. Just goes to show you can learn something new every day I guess. Have a good night driver.

 

I spent 45 years in commercial aviation, the last 27 of them as an FAA inspector and manager, with 5 years at the FAA Academy teaching regulatory compliance to new-hire inspectors and 2 years with the FAA rule-making folks at headquarters. Imagine writing duty and rest regulations for everything from a single-engine aircraft with 1-pilot doing local daytime visual flight, to 2-pilot, 3-pilot, 4-pilot, even 5-pilot crews making long-distance, 15+ hour international and over-the-pole flights in wide-body jets. Trucking regs are a piece of eazy cake!

 

So I take it that if you drive a daycab, you never sleep?

 

If you park the truck and go home I guess they're assuming you do but I see what you're getting at. Why get esoteric about it just because you sleep in a parked truck during a 10 hour break instead of going home and sleeping in a parked bedroom right?

 

IF I am waiting and I am on my phone trolling this site or FB or whatever, I log that is OFF-DUTY. As soon as it is my turnto load or unload, then I go ON-DUTY.

For example, if I get to a steel mill, while I am checking in I log ON-DUTY. While I wait for my turn, I log OFF-DUTY as as soon as they que me over the CB, I go ON-DUTY.

Another example, when I get to Menards and check in and remove all my straps, I log ON-DUTY. When I am done, I log OFF-DUTY while they unload me. When the are done unloading me, I log ON-DUTY DRIVING as I am out the gate and on the road in 2 minutes.

When I DO log OFF-DUTY while I am waiting, I am either eating, going to the bathroom, surfing the internet or reading a book, strecthing or getting some exercise. There is no way I am logging ON-DUTY for that just because I am at a shipper/receiver.