Sugar: The Bitter Truth

Discussion in 'Driver Health' started by Lepton1, Apr 27, 2013.

  1. Irishtrucker

    Irishtrucker Medium Load Member

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    The truth is coming out slowly but surely, I also listen to Dave Asprey, Bulletproof radio podcast and he has had a lot of guests on saying the same things. The most damning figures for me are how much type 2 diabetes, heart disease and cancer have risen since the 70's when the food pyramid came into being and big agriculture had its way with our diet.

    Thanks for the link
     
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  3. Brandonpdx

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    Dag blabbit you're ruining my Mtn. Dew high. :)
     
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  4. Dr_Fandango44

    Dr_Fandango44 Road Train Member

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    That's an interesting article from the "Daily Mail" one of the mainstream rags in the UK.
    Would you believe that as a small boy living back home, that fast food didn't exist. No McDonalds, BurgerKing.....nothing. We used to drink "pop" which is what we call soda but none of it was made with High Fructose Corn syrup, only sugar. And the pop was made with real fruit juice not chemicals.
    WE also drank what we call "cordial" which was concentrated fruit juice which was rendered down and we just added water.
    So now, everytime I go back home I see more obesity than ever over there, when in the old days it barely existed. And it's only taken a generation for this to happen.
    We have to take back our health and totally disregard what the Govt and food industry recommends.
    The so called Nutrition/food pyramid concocted by the Govt is a scam.
    Its based not on good health decisions but has been created as a result of aggressive lobbying by significant members of the food industry. That's why they are peddling a high carb diet........and look at the results.
    Record numbers of obesity and type 2 diabetes.
    What you should do IMHO. is turn the pyramid upside down so that it's fat that's the main basis of the diet followed by moderate protein intake and lastly make carbohydrates the least. In other words follow diets, lifestyles based on Paleo or ketogenic ways of eating.
    But of course you have to throw in some exercise but the bottom line is that we have to come away from all these carbs and we will be better for it in the long run.
    But also NOW, we must be aware of the intro of GMOs which are potentially even more lethal and dangerous to our health. Monsanto is the main culprit for this changing/tampering of our foods. It's all about the money !!
     
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  5. Espressolane

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    At one time this was a little known about life long diet. It was designed by Nutritionists, dietitians and doctors for people with Hypertension(High blood pressure).
    They then found it worked for a number of people with wide variety of health problems, like heart conditions, type 2 diabetes and more

    Now the DASH diet is all over the news as the latest a greatest fad. Too bad. It works.

    The DASH Diet
     
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  6. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Ooof!

    I just came off three days home time and fell off my normal diet. I could tell within the first meal that I wasn't doing the ecosystem of my gut any favors. Starting with a hamburger and fries, then proceeding for the next couple of days trying to be polite and eat my wife's great cooking. My body isn't used to eating a lot of cooked vegetables anymore, let alone the heavy salt and sugar in her soups and sauces.

    Got back in the truck last night and almost went on a complete fast today, only eating two bananas, an apple, and some plain yoghurt with fresh blueberries. Finished the day with a salad and almost feeling like I'm getting back on track after several visitations to replenish the sewer systems along the way.... :D

    While my wife and daughter were commenting how THIN I looked (unhealthy thin in their eyes) I'm trying to impress on them how fit I'm feeling on my diet. Hopefully it will start working for them, as both are looking to lose some weight and my weight has stayed off for the last two years now. It's hard for them to break the habit of buying prepared foods or cooking the #### out of meat and vegetables. I'm working on it...
     
  7. Dr_Fandango44

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    Well if you think this Dash diet is good then go for it. But I'm glad you regard it as the latest "fad"
    I recall reading about this diet survey and my initial reaction was one of suspicions. TGTBT. But thats me....
    If you delve into the report on it, its interesting that they make a big deal of SALT. Their claim is that Americans eat too much salt. Oh yeah, really? Wow, didn't realize. Gosh missed that one. Don't tell my wife as she eats salt like its going to of fashion. So I guess they throw in high blood pressure just to make their salt theory believable.
    Personally I think that claim is a bunch of hogwash, but I do find it fascinating that they will go to great lengths in the report making salt one of the demons but not ONCE did they say that Americans eat too much SUGAR. Now don't you think that's amazing? I do.
    So with that fact in mind, how can you take this report seriously. I mean, come on.
    That these so called experts conveniently forget to mention the "S" word. Sugar? aaah no big deal!!
    I find that fishy to say the least. We've got record numbers of obesity and diabetes and all they say is that Americans eat too much SALT.
    I say BULL @$#%**!!!
    That's why you have to do your due diligence when it comes to researching these new fad diets.
    It also went on to talk about sticking to Govt guidelines regarding fat consumption. Oh please!!!
    OK here we go again. Why on earth would we take notice of that lot who are totally clueless about nutrition??
    I'm sorry but the Dash diet IMHO, is just rehashing the same old tired theories and that we should stick to a high carb/ Low fat diet.
    This will if anything make the obesity numbers worse. And it won't cure you of diabetes either.
    We just have to ignore all of this conventional wisdom as balderdash and what we really need is new ideas.
    The high carb/low fat diet has been a total disaster and you have to go and find your own solutions to the problem, if you are overweight.
    Forget big Govt and the food industry. They have their own agenda and its not gonna benefit us.
    Lobbying is a powerful thing. It's all about the $$$
    I will give you another website I stumbled on. Written by a MD of all people and used to practice oncology but now targets nutrition.
    Good solid stuff and gives you food for thought.......no pun intended
    WWW.EATINGACADEMY.COM
    Go for it and enjoy. And its OK if you don't agree with him, but at least it gives you a different perspective.
     
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  8. fairshake

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    I have always kept the belief that stuff with high fructose corn syrup is like adding a multiplier to fat storage with your meal. Eat the ketchup with those fries, drink the soda (HFCS) and you have increased the fat storing mechanism in your own body. I agree with sugars/carbs being the main culprit to every #### health problem in the USA besides lack of exercise. I know for a fact of years of logging to the macro level of most things with various different chemical names that when I drop the sugar less than 30grams and lower the non fibrous carbs less than 100g I start getting lean and my healthiest pretty quick alone.

    If you ever counted the amount of carbs/sugars you see people eating every day it would blow your mind, I start gaining weight at over 300g of carbs alone, not counting protein/fat calories if I'm not very active for awhile. Go eat 1 meal of burger, fries, soda, apple pie and you are already at that amount in one meal. I counted myself eating over 1000g of carbs on a eat whatever day, it was very easy too. I'd guess that many truck drivers eat/drink around 1000g of carbs or more on an average day, that's just carbs alone aka 4,000 calories. This is just a guess though, Im sure it's decently close.

    I eat pretty freely out on the road, but watch sugars/carbs mainly and salt. I also believe in cycling on/off different foods for a few days, I believe this to be a very important process of the body in this day and age. Like not drinking coffee for a few days makes the next time more potent, eating lower or no carbs a few days increases insulin sensitivity making less insulin needed to lower blood sugar. The less insulin in the body and the process of fat burning can continue, yea I fast too for various other reasons like steady energy but it helps this too. Sensitivity cycling, pancreas rest day lol.

    Exercise and movement of the body also is for me a huge part things. From the mind and then the way the body changes the way it digests foods, even sugar with exercise. Yeap I also agree food is business and business is mostly dirty in the good ole USA.
     
  9. Dr_Fandango44

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    Nice response Fairshake. You've got a good handle on what you need to do and especially, the role of insulin on the body. At times it can be a daunting task and you have to exercise a certain discipline to stay on course. I just don't think though that salt is a major concern, I'm getting to the point that anybody of influence who talks about diet and nutrition through the media, are dead wrong and you have to sail in a different direction. Quite frankly we are being conned by most of them. That includes the media, Govt, healthcare industry, food industry and big pharma.......
    And yes, you are right about HFCS........it's basically poison.
    There is so much misinformation going on, behind the scenes lobbying, the old boy network. Everybody amongst that lot are aiding and abetting each other to profit as much as they can, at the expense of us. The latest debacle concerning GMOs and Monsanto is a prime example....

    With regards exercise, I'm not completely sold on the concept that exercise is essential. Put it this way, I believe that nutrition is much more important than the big "E" But, it's going to depend on you and your metabolism and desires. How fast you burn it up and whether exercise is a major factor. YMMV....
    As an example, when on the road I absolutely cut carbs down to virtually nothing..zero. At the max, maybe 50g on any given day. If that.
    Sorry but I can't give up my daily brew of Java....no sugar, of course.
    Therefore I like to be in a state of "ketosis" If you do your research you will know what that is, but don't mix it up with "keto-acidosis" Again the healthcare industry is ignorant about this state and they use scare tactics to dissuade you from going into ketosis, but I ignore them....... its a bunch of BS. Of course they are going to try and keep you in the status quo through ignorance.....business as usual.
    I think they know what they are doing and that is promoting obesity.
    I don't do a lot of exercise, much of anything except short walks, maybe to and from loading areas and truckstops. Yeah, it might be good to crank it up a bit. Calisthenics?? I like the idea too!!
    And yet, despite that, this last round of trips and I stayed out about 3 weeks, I actually LOST weight.
    On the outbound I was at 181lbs, and on the return, I'm down to 177lbs. Bear in mind too that my metabolic rate is low, thus I can easily put on weight if I'm not careful. And I used to be a fat kid. Until I wised up and got educated.
    I also find it fascinating that my diet/lifestyle actually makes me feel leaner, lighter with more energy. You would think that a high carb diet would give you the same, but as far as I'm concerned, no, in hindsight, it slowed me down, and felt bloated.
    If I could name one food I eat in abundance, with great nutrition benefits...it would be the avocado. And can I resist bacon?? Ah no!!
    There's a simple explanation why this process of ketosis happens and the body is a marvelous machine. The liver in particular, is an incredible organ to maintain your weight, up or down. The liver is a game changer, and if you understand the principles and concepts, it will be easy to either lose weight or at least, maintain it.
    We all know what to do, but most just ignore the advice and carry on with the old ways. They crave sugar...
    Good luck
     
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  10. Lepton1

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    I came across this very interesting arcticle: Some of My Best Friends Are Germs.

    The emerging field of research in what's going on inside our gut is pretty amazing and exciting. It ties directly to what we are eating.

    Fundamentally we aren't just eating for ourselves, we are eating for our entire "personal ecosystem". A diet high in refined sugar will create a huge imbalance in the bacteria in our gut, which has a cascading effect. Bacteria that love to eat sugar will generate toxins that inflame the intestines and other body tissues, reduce "good bacteria" that are necessary to generate B vitamins and other nutrients, and cause us to become "fat storage factories". This is a self reinforcing system, because our brain will be triggered to want to eat more sugar to feed the host of bacteria that want to eat sugar. This is a fundamental part of the mechanism for sugar addiction.

    Recently the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee came out with new recommendations for a healthy diet. Already the report is under attack by politicians and lobbying groups. It is important to note the new guidelines reduced the recommended amount of sugar to 60 grams per day. The World Health Organization recently came out with a recommendation of 30 grams per day (a can of coke has 65 grams), but noted that "we would recommend zero (0) grams but for the reality of the current food distribution system".

    Big Food has a lock on prepared foods, and WANT sugar in our diets. It's addictive, we'll want more of it, and it generates MUCH higher profits than unprocessed foods. The crossover effect is that creating sugar addicts assures the medical industry will continue to have millions of new "customers" willing to pay any price for amputations, chemotherapy, and drugs to take care of the expected explosion in health problems.

    If you read enough about what is really going on with our food system you should become angry. If you become angry enough, maybe you will make a conscious decision to take control of your own diet and health.
     
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  11. The Mariachi

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    Dr. Fan,

    You mentioned that you keep your carbs down to about 50 a day when on the road. I was wondering where you get those 50 grams per day? Bread?

    And what do you recommend/eat in terms of unprocessed foods since everything seems to be processed these days?

    How does this sound...

    Canned tuna
    Two slices of whole wheat bread for the day
    Some fruits and vegetables
    Water
     
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