Slick roads 101

Last time I was there, My passenger side wiper got stuck in my driver side wiper (great timing for that to decide to break), and then it flung my driver side wiper off the road somewhere... I had to go another 20 miles in heavy snow to a truck stop because horrifyingly for our job, I felt safer driving while I can barely see than being parked on the side of the road the way some of these truck drivers drive in that stuff. I'm never going that far out west again unless it's a personal road trip in my nice small car, and in the summer.

 

just go run up and down the hill over to superior and back a few times when the road is slick and youll be one with the truck quik lol.

 

My Terminal is in Superior WI

 

wonder how many will pull this thread up and try to go by it while trying it out

 

Very true, tho I did concentrate on a pre-misalignment scenario (curves) where the angled/sideways force figures in to a greater degree right at the initial stage, and I neglected to address initial straight line scenarios (the position where most jack-knife's begin from).

BUT, and this is the part where I give you just a bit of grief, ALL IN FUN...

The link to your post that you reference has YOU saying the exact same word I used (re. "sideways" force)
An excerpt: "What this means is that when the trailer starts to swing, it also pushes sideways on the tractor through the king pin".
Then for a 2nd offense you went on to say "Combine this with the sideways push, and they tend push the drives the opposite direction as the trailer swing.."

I fully understand what you're saying Hammer, and I know we're on the 'same page'.
My term "sideways" is an exaggeration (to the mind) for beginning stages of a jack-knife, especially initially straight line jack-knifes.
On a straight line scenario, the jack-knife initially starts at zero sideways force. It only comes into play after tractor/trailer misalignment begins/occurs.

I recommend everyone to read that post link, as it does give a very good physics lesson related to jack-knifes.

 

Triplesix it was a joke...lighten up man....

 

Well Hammer ol buddy...i is one o them Fl guys as ya know&I actually read most of the posts here&realized you r right I do not know a ####### thing about driving in the snow...technically...and frankly readin all this really gave me a headache....and at the risk of jinxin my superstitious ###....i really have no godly idea how I've managed to make it 1/2 way thru my 42d winter....its mind...#######...boggling.....

and now that I'm thinkin bout it...I believe you prolly are Dangerous.....LMAO

 

And you know you ain't the kind of Florida fool I was talking about. Lol!

Me? Dangerous? You sound like that sassy waitress!

 

When I was in CDL school we watched several videos showing tankers practicing on skid pads... they would make some kind of turn at the same time water was squirted on the ground near their tires to force them "lose control" of the vehicle... those drivers were all professional experienced drivers... Quite interesting... My CDL school used to have that skid pad training but when I took the program they didn't have it anymore...