gears for hills and general shifting advice

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  1. North_easy

    North_easy Bobtail Member

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    I know downgrade its always one gear lower than what you climbed with . so if I climped at 15mph in 5th I'd break at summit and go into 4th turn on Jakes and let gravity make me go 50+mph



    But how do I know I need to be in 5th to climb? Still figure its best to hit every hill in the climbing lane at 5th gear so I don't stall but I feel like I can be going faster a lot of time . Plus when there's no climbing lane I'm blocking traffic for everyone
     
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  3. pete359assault

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    Oh boy! So you would slow down from say 55 and get into 5th gear at the bottom of the hill...yikes
     
  4. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Forget about the one gear lower theory. That only works if both sides of the hill are exactly the same grade and distance. That's hardly ever the case.

    How do I know what gear to climb the hill in

    Youre on flat ground in top gear. Accelerate as much as you can safely and hit the hill carrying as much momentum as you can. The weight will start dragging you down, and you will have to downshift. When you get to the point to where the gear will maintain around 1300 rpms, that's the gear you need to be in. You don't want to lug a motor at 1000 rpms uphill, because the exhaust gas temps will probably get too hot and burn up the motor...especially if you have big power.

    How do I know which gear to go downhill in?

    Roadsigns will give you a clue. Sign says ATTN TRUCKERS: STEEP GRADE AHEAD. 6% GRADE NEXT 4 MILES. TRUCK SPEED LIMIT 45mph.

    Okay, you dont drop a gear and plan to run 45 mph on unfamiliar road...especially if you are loaded heavy. Drop your speed on flat ground, find the gear you can run 35 mph at 1500 rpm, get your speed down to 30 mph, full jake and try it. It should be enough to hold you. If it's not, the rpms will build slowly and the jake will get louder and stronger. You get near 40 mph, stab the brakes and release them. Stabbing the brakes is not riding the brakes all the way down hill. STAB is not a soft touch either.
     
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  5. ac120

    ac120 Road Train Member

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    "One gear lower going down than the one you used going up" is an old wive's tale. Say you went east up Cabbage with 44K in the box then went west down Cabbage with 8K in the box. Same gear? IT DEPENDS ON THE HILL, THE WEIGHT OF YOUR LOAD, THE TRUCK, THE GEARING, THE ENGINE, THE POSTED TRUCK SPEEDS ON A DOWNGRADE, ETC. ETC. Sometimes, the downgrade isn't the same grade as the upgrade (hills have two sides). There's no rule of thumb, but not to worry. As you gain experience, you'll learn to adjust to each hill and each situation. Going up, you just gear down and down until you've got the gear you need to keep moving without stalling or winding the engine off the motor mounts. That's how I did it. If you're going slow (slower than some people would like you to go and they have to tell you about it on the CB) in the climbing lane, well, that's what climbing lanes are for. If there's no climbing lane you do the best you can. If someone thinks you're going too slow downhill that's their problem--they can only drive one truck at a time and it shouldn't be yours.
     
  6. Riprap

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    I wonder how many rpms a tach reads when doing 50+mph in 4th?
     
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    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    My truck the motor would be long gone way before I hit 50mph in 4th gear. Be in Georgia overdrive all the way down.
     
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  8. 77smartin

    77smartin Road Train Member

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    Learning how to downshift will answer all your questions....if that makes any sense.
     
  9. North_easy

    North_easy Bobtail Member

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    Shows you how good my school was :p. They told us if we had questions that's what the internet is for.

    So do you down shift well going up a hill and up shift well going down a hill? Our school always yelled of we tryed to take the test hill in too high a gear telling us you don't want to down shift going up a hill .
     
  10. Pumpkin Oval Head

    Pumpkin Oval Head Road Train Member

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    In 4th gear your max speed would be 10 mph. You must have made a typo when you said 50+ mph.

    As far as uphill gear goes, the terrain will change and you should upshift when you reach your top engine rpm. And you should downshift when your rpms drop too much.
     
  11. North_easy

    North_easy Bobtail Member

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    No typo I have no clue how manuals work really ,something with gears is all I know .

    I figured like ifnyoubwent past max speed for that gear range it would be like being in neutral or something



    I guess what confuses me is the one gear lower than you climped thing . because if ur climbing at 25 mph the next lowest gear would be like 15mph when down hill speed limits are like 45mph+
     
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