Trucking on a 1099. The real story.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by joseph1135, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. chismi56

    chismi56 Bobtail Member

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    guess while i am at it....what about accidents and stuff like that ..do they throw that on me too.... can they say i am my own entity and throw me to the wolves? i mentioned occupational insurance..that they wont let me see...been asking to see it...should i keep asking?..as bad as this sounds my license is the best thing i have going and my score is 0 on CSA and no problems in ten years on regular license or 2 years on CDL...i only have about 4 months experience 3 months was with another russian mafia outfit that went under owing me a lot of $...i know my past is my problem but im trying to do the right thing...i hate gambling with the one thing good i got..should someone like me just shut up and be happy i got hired and just get that year i need to move on?
     
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  3. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Making you run illegal just sucks. There is no other way to say it. I would be looking for another job but don't quit until you're sure. Heck there is even a story here on TTR about someone who quit and then the new place changed their mind and the old place wouldn't take her back. So be sure.
     
  4. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    Go to Western Express. I don't reccommend them lightly. But if getting hired elsewhere is a problem, go there. Put in a year. And you should be off and running.
     
  5. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    Ok. What they are doing is illegal. That's the first thing. It's illegal and they are putting the burden on you.

    Next. You owned your mistakes. You did your time and admitted to it. As far as anyone should be concerned, that's your past. I think a lot of people think like me, and that's when people don't blame the real culprit, themselves, then it becomes an issue.

    3. You need to get out of there. Now. As I said earlier, hit up Western Express. They're a second chance company. No, they're not the greatest. But, stick it out a year, then put the feelers out. It may be a while and it may be tough, depending on your past. But a lot of guys here got it done. Ask my friend Cranky Yankee. Quite a few guys here have had troubled pasts and are now doing fine. So can you. I don't ever recommend Western Express. But they are your best hope for the future.

    You don't need to be taken advantage of. Good luck and we will see you out here.
     
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  6. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    No there wouldn't be more unemployed drivers out there.
    Trucking doesn't and will never generate jobs.
    We haul what manufacturers/importers/exporters/sellers offer us to haul.
    If all trucking firms were forced to stop using 1099's then there would be more drivers hauling under W2's.
    In fact those that couldn't find a W2 job and were "forced" to take a 1099 job because off their past, would most likely find it easier to find a W2 job if 1099's were no longer used.

    What i find strange is that so many on this forum attack leaseprograms but defend 1099's.
     
  7. Cat sdp

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    I know you guys are talking mostly about ( company) drivers. But as DY said there's not one l/p or even lease on your truck program that meets those criteria .....( not even Schneider's choice)

    I've always said saying no (turning down a load) isn't being in business ...


    If you don't have your own insurance /authority and can haul for anyone you want to..... Your a glorified company driver.....

    But what do I know......
     
  8. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    So let's back up a bit with this - what exactly is a company saving by paying on 1099 vs. w2? 6.5% of the drivers' pay, plus fees to their payroll processor? 6.5% would be $3250 saved for each driver that grosses $50K annually. That seems hardly worth the IRS risk. Am I missing something here?
     
  9. Cat sdp

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    Workers comp , unemployment ins and health ins at least......
     
  10. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    My costs for 2015

    FICA .062
    Medicare .0145
    Comp .081
    UMC .0287(first 14K payroll)
    FUT .007 (varies on your states borrowing from the feds)

    A sub-contractor that has to abide by the contractors, federal, state, local rules or safety regs doesn't make them an employee. I.E. You hire a contractor to paint the inside of your house and a condition is only painting while you are at work doesn't make them your employee.
     
  11. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Your example doesn't equate to working essentially as an employee driving a truck and getting paid on a 1099. The painting sub-contractor is getting paid by numerous customers and has a business license, bond, etc. You aren't telling him HOW to paint, nor teaching him how to paint. You hire him to do a job, and he is is free to do the job the way they see fit to meet the requirements of the contract. The sub-contractor is free to go get "employment" from any other customer, bids on each job, can refuse to do your job, and can't be "fired".

    None or few of those conditions are met with a typical truck driver getting paid by 1099. They CAN be fired, are sometimes trained or taught how to drive for the employer, aren't free to refuse a job or drive today for another employer, and don't bid on today's job. SOME drivers that are paid on 1099 have more autonomy, finding their own loads with brokers and making their own decisions, but those seem to be relatively rare.
     
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