Not a fan of "Report a BAD trucking company" category

True but there are some really bad ones and the ones to watch are not just one or two people crying because they are babies, but when many people come forward with the same story. That is when you listen up!

 

... I don't really think it's the mood a driver is in when they make a report, it's not like we are all a bunch of little girls here.... We can all pretty much detect.... Cry babies drivers or drivers that are full of stories or even drivers that have their face firmly planted up the companies butt....i think it's a good thing to have all the insight on a company's track as possible, I've found that good companies could care less about this forum, they have no need for cheer leaders or anyone coming to their defense...they don't beg for drivers and any driver that comes here with sob stories are quickly dismissed ....so it's not hard to desifer the BS from the real scoop information.... This forum is also a valuable tool for drivers looking to know more than what the recruiter is willing to tell them about.... Not to mention a big help in cleaning up this industry by exposing the bad companies that should be put out of business, because of their Own iniquity, not because of a few drivers that had a bad experience or don't want to work or something like that

 

And here we are with the shades of grey.......

What makes a bad company for one person may make it a good company for another. Yea, we all need to make money, and if you really are not making any money, you may be with a bad company. But then we need to look into why you are not making money.

There is give and take.
Driver A is with a company and always talking about how great it is. He is out 4-6 weeks at a time and takes 2-3 days off. He is running all over the US and getting max miles every week. To the point that he needs to take recaps on the road every 6-7 days, just to have the hours to keep rolling. Non stop, 10-14 on and 10 off. Constantly rotating running time to keep rolling. He is in heaven, and loves to tell everyone how great his company is.

Driver B has been running regional, home every other weekend at least. But he is not making the money he wants. So he listens to driver A and goes for it. Swaps to full OTR at driver A's company.
About 2 months later Driver B runs into Driver A at a terminal. They start talking and it seems that driver B is not very happy. Says that the company sucks and that he is ready to quit. When driver A asks what the issue is, driver B says his issues are that he is never home, and that he was running to hard. He states that in the first month he never got more than a 10 hour break. He hates taking restarts on the road, wants to be home. So he adjusts his loads to adapt to his driving style. But this has caused him to be late on a few loads, so now the company has started backing off on his loads and miles, so that he can get the loads delivered on time.
So now he is really mad that the company is "punishing him" and "starving him out" due to being late on some loads that he believes were dispatched wrong, and that none if this is his fault. He did his best, but the company pushed to hard.

Driver A is not really sure what to say. Everything he loves about this company are the same exact things that driver B hates about it. Yea, they run hard and the runs are tight. But on time delivery is possible. Just you cannot waste time.

So is this a bad company?
Not really. it is perfect for driver A. He gets loads of miles, stays out for a month or more at a time, and the loads are all legal, if tight.

So not really a bad company. Just a bad fit for driver B. Is he a bad driver? not really. He just does not like to run that hard and likes his time at home. Sitting for a restart on the road does not make since to him, even though it could get him more hours to run and could make him more money.
He is not necessarily lazy either. He just rather run on a set shift. Home weekend a few weekends a month. But wants longer runs than he was getting running regional at his last company.
So this company was not a good fit for him. He needs to find a medium length of haul company in his part of the country that can get him home a few times a month, and he needs more CPM than driver A, since he does not want to work all those miles. Yea, he will most likely still make less money than driver A, but he can get close.

Not every company listed as good is good for every driver. And not every company that is listed as bad is bad for every driver.

And I am sorry for rambling lol, but that is a new take on and old story. Not told as well as the original, but more in depth.

 

Perfect example of BS complaint
This is the industry - this stuff happens to everyone from time to time

And what's a supposed "bad" company?
I'll use CR England because I hear their name the most
Why because of so many failed leases? That makes them bad?
None of the lease to own are ripping you off
The drivers get in over their head

 

Actually I have to disagree to a point. MOST of the lease to own scams are just that, scams.
They are set up to help the company not the driver. If the driver trains or even better runs team with their spouse, they can make money. But in most cases you will not earn much more than a company driver and you will be holding the most risk.

Let's say it is a reefer company. You have a USDA load and when you get to the reciever you check in and the person at the desk says put the trailer in door 20.
So you do this. About 5 min later a lady in a white coat and hardhat comes to your door and ask's if an inspector signed off on your bills. You say no, you were told to put it in door 20. Your load is now rejected.
You have to bring the load to an incenerator and it is burned. A few weeks later you recieve the bill for the load. Since you are an Owner Op, and you did not follow company policy, you now own that load.
Yea, the lease op screwed up, but should they have to foot the bill for a 30,000 dollar load?

The average lease OP has a net of about 60-80k per year max. If the truck breaks down for a few days you can loose money fast. Steer tires at 500 a pop. Drives close to 300 per pop. And on and on. All it takes is a few good break downs and you are making less than a company driver. Who btw, at an ok company can make 60-70k per year as a company driver with no risk.

As soon as you sign a lease with a company like the one you mentioned you are in over your head. It is just a matter of time till you sink.

 

Says the "2 post wonder", whose other post sounds suspiciously like a Swift recruiter.....
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...ob-cdl-no-driving-experience.html#post4527466


Just my $.07 (inflation...lol)

 

Yo every is in titled to there own openion and thats why there are those section for those people but ur two cents is noted and extremely useless like my last truck

 

I agree does very much sound Like a swift recuter

 

I can't say much about lease purchase deals... I have never been interested in this hairy canary type trucking but I have heard about alot of drivers getting burned by this.... I would say it really works out good for the companies, they can sell the same truck over & over again about 3 or 4 times and they don't blink an eye about destroying a young man's dreams while they laugh all the way to the bank, I think it's a shame but that's the world we live in these days

 

Whatever I'm not a swift recruiter
But it's pretty humorous and wow you guys are paranoid the second someone defends trucking companies.

What you described as lease to own - wow that sucks big time
But yeah their in over their head.
How is buying a truck at sticker price ripping someone off?
The lease to own was set up so anyone can have a shot at o/o
And you want to take the failures as evidence that companies are ripping people off?

Maybe some companiesare pushing it down people's throat
That's another issue