2000 international 9200 no power windows

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by scotasmus, Apr 28, 2015.

  1. scotasmus

    scotasmus Bobtail Member

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    Have power to fuse, relay and switch. Switch is in the door. Motor has a 2 prong connector. Power is going to one side of connector for up and the other side for down. How does it ground? I checked side that did not have power for ground and there was none. Both Windows are not working. Please help
     
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  3. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    International uses white coloured wires for ground. Ground the white wire from the switch connector and see if it works. Does the window switch in the passenger door work for the passenger window?
     
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  4. scotasmus

    scotasmus Bobtail Member

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    No passenger side doesn't work either. Does not work with switch in driver door or passengers door.
     
  5. sailboatjim

    sailboatjim Light Load Member

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    The wiring (usually at the switch) has to criss cross for up and down. This is usually used in a centrally located switch in the cab. Not individual switches on the doors.
    The motor runs up for example with the wiring pos/neg and then when you switch the switch the other way it runs down with it neg, pos.
    This cross over of the voltage is done at the switch.
    If you look at the switch you will see how they archive this.
    Because each wire can be positive or negative sometimes they make both wires to the motor the same color.

    It could also be accomplished with relays where the switch simple controls the relay and the relay does the switch of polarity. Used with separate switches on the door.
    I have an International but neither window has power so I'm not sure how they achieve it but I'm betting they simple use relays if there is more than one switch centrally located in the cab.
    Relay 1 moves the window up and relay 2 moves the window down.
    The switch position would simple control the relay which would cross the polarity instead of criss crossing the polarity with the switch itself. When one relay is activated it is wired to lock out the other relay from being activated at the same time.

    Those are two possibilities for hard wired windows.

    Another would be to do the whole thing in software by running it through a body module or some kind of computer module (plc). In that case all the relay polarity control would be taken care of in software and the switch positions would simple supply an input signal to the computer.
    Input 1,2,3,4 Input 1 high drivers side window down. Input 2 high driver side window up etc. etc
     
  6. scotasmus

    scotasmus Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the input sailboatjim! System has one fuse one relay two switches in drivers door and one switch on passenger door. Tested connector to motor on driver door and power is being switched from side to side but I could not get a good ground. Since both Windows do not work I am assuming I lost ground earlier in system. If anyone has seen this problem and could point out a place to look it would be much appreciated or I guess l will just have to start following wires and checking grounds.
     
  7. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Did you try connecting the white wire to any ground?
     
  8. scotasmus

    scotasmus Bobtail Member

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    Both wires are blue because either wire can be positive or ground depending on if you are going up or down.
     
  9. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    The white wire should be on the connector that plugs into the bottom of the window switches.
     
  10. lowrnu

    lowrnu Bobtail Member

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    05 9400i, same issue, was bad ground from switch to body; broken wire in door harness. Bypassed harness ground with new ground wire, works as new (slow windows not slow any longer)
     
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