Untaxed fuel, used motor oil, and on-road risks

You'd get a ticket.

If you're lugging around untaxed farm fuel you better have a tanker endorsement, a bol and placards for the hazmat "cargo."

 

They would write you a large ticket then tell you to tell your story to the judge ...

 

And you couldn't just "say" your running off one fuel tank, you other untaxed tank that says "ultra low sulfur fuel only"on it around the rim must be "disconneted from the fuel lines and ect..

 

The answer is you could be caught doing it... and in Minnesota the fine is substantial. ($10,000 to 15,000) for the ticket. How do they catch you? The DOT and sometimes Minnesota weights and Measures enforcers will pull you over that swab(look like a really big Q-tip) your tank looking for any trace of red dye diesel fuel. If they find it, you are in big big trouble. Do people do this? Yup, farmers do it all the time, and I do know some that their on road trucks have never seen clear diesel EVER. As they run Minnesota farm plates on their trucks and get away with quite a bit, but if they got caught they would be subject to the fine as well.

 

If it was a Mack, it would have probably been a Mack engine.

Gramps might have gotten his hands on one of those old filtration systems that the military used in the 2 1/2 ton trucks that allowed the engine to run on anything even remotely resembling a petroleum product, which would be quite handy in a zombie apocalypse.

 

Actually the old timers used to do this all the time with used oil... Minus and any and all emissions stuff on newer trucks they used to burn their old used engine oil all the time... They would just dump in about a gallon in each tank every time they filled up on fuel. A little more black smoke was the only side effect.

 

I have had DOT come out and stick my tanks to make sure I was running legal fuel a few times.

I know a guy here in Fla that runs his own concoction of bio diesel that he makes from restaurant waste oils. He only uses it in his 04 Dodge 3500, carries a 100 gal fuel tank in his bed.

I always wondered what the consequences would be if I ran that in my truck and crossed state lines.

Hurst

 

I guess as long as you report that use when you file your fuel taxes I don't see why the states would take issue.

 

Ryder used to use a recycling pump. The oil pan had a quick connect and two hoses went in the tank. It pulled oil from the pan and fuel from the tank, blended, heated, and filtered it through two big socks. They replaced injectors about every 200,000 and ntc injectors were about $20 each. Saunders Leasing used a larger unit that put it back in the bulk storage tank and dispursed it among the fleet, better than 12 gallons dumped in one truck a once. How does that savings pencil when a 6 pack costs $2.000. Pop's may have been using one tank as a storage tank for farm equipment. If you are caught with any red fuel in a truck tank is assumed you are not paying on road fuel tax properly and you are going to pay and pay and pay. Bio fuel is not red how would they know but to be legal you would probably have to report and pay tax on it. My buddy got caught with red fuel in his p/u and cost him $3000. Heard of a guy caught with lines ran out bottom of the tank in his bed to the engine, that cost double. Its like liquor, NO MERCY! Its the Federal and State Tax built into cost of the fuel thats a problem not IFTA.