Well that blew up in my face really good.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Infosaur, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Okay, I guess my point wasn't obvious.

    One time I went to do a tug test. The legs were up and the red button was out (no air to trailer) and the trailer rolled right out. No brakes at all!

    So of course I wrote it up and got it put OOS. (Also had a bad wheel bearing they found while repairing the brakes)
     
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  3. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    The tug test alone isn't enough. unless you get under there and check the jaws your bound to drop a trailer sometime.

    I've seen a few people hookup to a trailer and give it three good cab rocking tugs and drag the trailer a bit only to pull out and have it drop.

    I guess they don't make things like they used to. always, always get out and check the jaws. You'll be glad you did when you catch it early.
     
  4. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    UPDATE: I took the first job to come along. Looks like a good thing I did too, my first week on the job I kept coming home to rejection letters and calls.

    It's even easier work than the last, but now I'm hearing from a co-worker that the reason they couldn't fill the job was it was (basicly) part-time.

    I was told it was a full time job. So now I'm waiting to see what my 1st check is like.

    I have two options:

    1.) find another job and work both
    2.) find another job and leave for better pay.
     
  5. Oldman49

    Oldman49 Medium Load Member

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    I think some of the 5th wheel problems might come from improperly serviced 5th wheels. To remind newbies,it's not enough to slather grease on the surface. Those grooves around the slot need to be cleaned out before relubricating. Most TAs just squirt a couple lines of grease when a screwdriver needs to remove old grease. The grooves are designed to force grease back to the kingpin/locking jaw and sliding parts underneath. Every time a hard turn is made you sure greasing the bottom side.
    Another issue I think comes in the winter when the truck sits while you are at home, a huge snow comes along and now you shove water,grime, and other crud into the locking system. Get into the habit of bungee strapping a piece of cardboard over the top before snow and ice. Just my opinion of course.
     
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  6. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Had dinner with a rep from my old job. They want me back with more pay (but about what I'm making now, probably with more hours though)

    Unemployment must have tipped them off that I was fired from my "new" job (which is now my prior job since I have a "new-new" job)

    Since I'm also talking with guys that have left I've heard a lot of gossip about what was going on in various situations.

    The whole shebang seems like a mess right now. I think for right now I'm gonna stay with the "new-new" job and look into a part time day job for spending cash.

    Also the department of unemployment keeps referring me to "jobs I may be qualified for". But how many times can I tell them "no, OTR with USX, JBH, & Swift won't work for me,,,"!
     
  7. elmo99120

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    no idea why they would fire you for it since it was in the yard when it happened and you "claim" that you did your proper checks. makes me a little curious why you have had so many drops though. mechanical failures happen all the time. but in the eyes of safety you have had 3 trailer drops in 10 years? They either have some extremely poor equipment or you have some severe lapses in protocol there man. hope it doesnt permanently screw ya but it just might. thats alot of drops
     
  8. Jerry12

    Jerry12 Heavy Load Member

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    The pull test, pull forward at low speed, then use trolley valve to stop forward momentum. Either the combination stops OR trailer decouples.

    Ques: why was the incident reported...normal crap???
     
  9. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Elmo: I've been driving for about 10 years.

    The first one was a rookie mistake. The 2nd one was a "missfire" (the jaws closed but not on the 5th wheel) both were "oh #### moments" both happened when I was at the same place for a long time. None have ever hit the ground, they've all come to rest on the frame and rear wheels.

    I've also:
    1.) missed the pin entirely (trailer too high)
    2.) gotten stuck in the mud
    3.) crossed my E&S lines and spent an hour looking for an airleak when it was a stupid error on my part.
    4.) caught a trailer on a low clearance section (this is really due to the company property and blindly doing what I was told. After I screwed up the boss agreed that we wouldn't be able to put trailers in that part of the property we're talking serious off roading here )

    All of this was "on private property" and was viewed by my boss as no-harm/no foul. As there was no damage to any of the trailers (or they were so old and ratty, what's another scratch?)

    Never had a trailer drop on the open road (thank god) and believe me I visually inspect EVERY hook up since the accident.

    I'm not saying I didn't #### up, I'm pretty sure I assumed from the beginning it was "driver error", I'm raising the possibility (after reading the Fontaine recall article) that it COULD have been a mechanical issue and since I'm no longer there I can't investigate that possibility.

    But please: since it isn't getting tired and old after 5 pages, how about all the perfect/flawless drivers tell me AGAIN how this would never happen to them because they are PERFECT.
     
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  10. elmo99120

    elmo99120 Bobtail Member

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    That makes a huge difference man. When you say u dripped a trailer it usually means to the ground lol. If ya drop one on the tires on on the frame ya did what ur supposed to do most. Ive seen a few actually drop doing their tug tests after raising the landing gear. When i go my tug test i always go backwards first before anything. That little move will relock the pin if someone pullsur handle which happens alot in truck stops nowdays. Usually when someone finds a cb rambo and they wanna punish them. Hopefully u will recover from that lil hickup and be able to continue on ur career
     
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  11. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Yeah, now for my next headache: I was supposed to get an ID badge from a "certain federal agency" for my new (current) job.

    This "agency" seems to have misplaced it.

    I can't say the name of this "agency" but it sounds like:

    Slow profits
    Toast cough fits
    Most stall tricks

    :rolleyes:
     
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