Do you care about the HOS?

I've often wanted to carry some of my old Forestry books in the truck with me...that way when I'm asked for my "log book", I can ask "Which one do you want to see?" Of course THAT would get the officer's attention, so I'd have to start handing them over as I explained..."This one will tell you how to grow the logs...this one will explain measuring the logs...this one will help in identifying the logs..."

Ain't done it yet...don't get stopped often enough to justify lugging them around all of the time.

 

If I understand the Canadian HOS correctly, they have a provision that allows you to go over by up to two hours, but you have to add double that to your next break (one of our northern members can correct me as needed).

That always made a lot of sense to me.

 

It's not "going over". Up here your day must end 16 hours after you start. You are allowed to drive 13 hours and total on duty 14 hours. To extend the day to 16 hours your breaks during the day must be at least 30 minutes each or they do not count. Can be off duty or sleeper. At the end of the day you must take enough sleeper time to add up to at least 10, and the end of day break must be at least 8 hours. Then the next day starts at the end of that 8 hour break.

 

Ok you want to run hard and illegal here is how to do it. Keep your sleeper zipped down and run as a team. if you go through scales officers are not allowed to disturb the sleeping driver. Just think of all the cash you can make. Oh just don't get into a accident and keep those wheels moving only stop for Fuel and have those Gatorade bottles ready. Now you have the tools to be an outlaw Good luck You Outlaw Driver

 

Pretty much it. Im in Montréal right now waiting for my load.... 2 hours late on production. My run usualy takes about 12.5 hours to do. Looks like it going to be a maxed 16 hour day for me, leaving at prime time trafic jam!

 

Ok, let me get that straight. 13 hrs driving, 14 on duty, 16 total? So if you take 4 half hour rest brakes, you basically have a 16 hr clock?

I seem to recall an Alberta scale employee telling me something about a make up provision on the next day? Or is that having to take the full 10 hrs to restart the clock?

This is actually relevant, because we usually push into 11 hrs driving time just as we hit the border in BC.

 

Yes that would be OK. Then because you have accumulated 2 hours of each period during the day of 30 min or more you just have to take 8 off and day starts from the end of that 8 hour break. You can do this every day.

There is a provision if you say do 14 hours on duty then take 8 in sleeper, you can start the next day after that, however, you have to mark it in your logs as day one and day two and over the two days you do not go over 28 on duty or 26 driving. That's a bit more complicated though.

 

my normal day is under 9 hr's........ what is the HOS you speak of

 

I'm right behind you started at mm29 I80 pa. and sitting in Kennebunk, me. 10:59 drive time, and I had all these weekend N.E. vacation people to deal with, oh, yeah, on e-logs 659 miles.

 

14 hour rule is the only thing I really hate about the FMCSA hos. Canada allows 16. California allows 16. Texas allows 15. Alaska allows 15.

Or if they just took the existing regulations and said "there are 2 hours (cumulative) each week that don't count against you." Need to drive 30 miles after having a 5 hour break? Take another 4 hours & 30 off and you're good to start a new day (just with 90 minutes of float time remaining out of your original 120).