High fuel temp causing fan to run?

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  1. flat top

    flat top Bobtail Member

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    99 Peterbilt with 2ws cat running on 1lw - 40 pin computer (dont ask me, bought it this way). I am using one 100 gal fuel tank. When I get below 1/2 a tank of fuel, and the water temp get warm enough to kick on the fan, the fan will not turn off until I fill back up with fuel. The fuel temp according to my temp gun is 160*. I am running a 150 ohm resistor on the fuel temp sensor, which I would think would defeat the sensor, but maybe not. Any cat guru's have any insight?

    Also at what fuel temp should the sensor be telling the fan to run?

    Thank you
     
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  3. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    I'm guessing your resistor is screwing it up, never heard of this before.
     
  4. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    As far as I know the fuel temp has no effect on fan .
    Intake air temp
    Water temp
    Ac head presure

    But not fuel
    Your problem lies somewhere else

    My guess is you got some funky wiring issue on that 2ws with a 40 pin ecm
     
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  5. flat top

    flat top Bobtail Member

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    I've run it both ways... Makes no difference either way.


    I'm afraid you are probably right. I also have a weird issue in the winter when idling for very long, where it acts like 1 or more injectors are stuck open and i get lots of white/fuel smoke and terribly rough running, after taking off, but only briefly.

    Anyone else have any guesses?

    Thank you.
     
  6. T800H

    T800H Medium Load Member

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    I don't think fuel temp has anything to do with the fan, but 160* fuel temp? that would scare me.
    I just replace all my fuel lines with fittings and better 90* elbows, upgraded the fuel hoses to bigger size, installed a new fuel cooler, re route the fuel to the back of the head and return to the cooler than thru the ecm and to the tank, my fuel temp is 30* to 40* cooler than ever and since I'm a manic I can feel the way it runs
    I do have the fuel temp wire but after a couple of hours you could barely notice the difference, now is like driving right after fuel up all day long.
     
  7. flat top

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    Took the truck to the local cat house today, for an intermittent check engine light. Couldn't exactly pinpoint the problem, but with this and the weird fuel temp issue, I decided to have them put on a new engine wiring harness in the morning. The harness that is on the truck has been butchered up to make the older 40 pin ecm work. So we're going with a new 40 pin harness. Hopefully this will solve the problems.

    T800H-- what should I be seeing for fuel temps on a 100* day, with less than 50 gal. of fuel on board?
     
  8. T800H

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    with my new fuel cooler I'm about 5 to 10 degree higher than ambient temp, and I'm always under 50 gals, since been working locally, but this is Florida where humidity plays a factor and it actually helps when moving and like I've said, got a new cooler that is so efficient I was surprised, I'm even thinking of another cooler from pump to secondary filter, may not be worth it, but it's still lingering in my head.

    before this cooler I was seeing around 130 somthing, around this time of the year, this might be actually your answer.
     
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  9. Hurst

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    Not sure if this will help as I have a BXS Acert in mine,.. but I suspect it could be similar.

    I had an issue with my engine fan coming on and staying on eating up my mpg. Turned out to be the high pressure AC switch.

    The coupling in the connector would cause the signal to break and each time it did it would set the fan on and keep it on for long periods. Had it in a few shops and they couldnt find anything wrong.

    Then through my own issues with the AC I discovered the fan kicked on when I pulled the plug for the high pressure switch. The wiring was rough and the plug had seen better days. On my Columbia they put it right on the frame by the front passenger steer,.. near the shock. I replaced the switch and rewired the connector to it. No problems since.

    Hurst
     
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  10. bigstank

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    If your engine fan is stuck on, most of the time it's the ac pressure sensor up by the radiator. At least that's what mine did. It was a quick easy fix.
     
  11. Hardlyevr

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    The white smoke and rough running after extended idle is because those engines put out too much fuel to idle long periods of time. It is not a stuck injector. Putting the truck up on a higher idle speed of around 1000 rpms will help some, but of course burn more fuel while you idle. The problem is that the combustion chamber is not staying hot enough to completely burn all the fuel at idle speeds.
     
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