Correct way to log 34

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  1. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Nope. I don't keep my receipts.

    Tax man does my perdiem on nights out. Not money spent.
     
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  3. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    (10) Recording days off duty. Two or more consecutive 24-hour periods off duty may be recorded on one duty status record.

    (11) Total hours. The total hours in each duty status: off duty other than in a sleeper berth; off duty in a sleeper berth; driving, and on duty not driving, shall be entered to the right of the grid, the total of such entries shall equal 24 hours.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-hours-service-regulations



    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/395.8

    I wonder how companies explain this little tidbit when they alter a drivers electronic logs...??

    (2) Entries made by driver only. All entries relating to driver's duty status must be legible and in the *driver's own* handwriting.
     
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  4. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    The tidbit about 2 days of off duty time must be one line I did not know... Interesting.

    However, 34 hours isn't quite 48 hours. So it does kind of leave it up in the air as to how it should be logged. Unless, obviously, you're off duty for 48+ hours.
     
  5. KB3MMX

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    (ii) Rest breaks. Except for drivers who qualify for either of the short-haul exceptions in § 395.1(e)(1) or (2), driving is not permitted if more than 8 hours have passed since the end of the driver's last off-duty or sleeper-berth period of at least 30 minutes.
     
  6. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    Exactly, it's like a loophole. Typical lawmaking, always leave a back door that can be prosectued.



    Here's a good guide to HOS:

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmcsa.dot.gov/files/docs/Drivers Guide to HOS 2015_508.pdf
     
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  7. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    Seems like the smart thing to do is to enjoy two full days off then! :D

    And I'm pretty sure Blair was talking specifically about on duty time.

    You can drive for 11 total hours. But no more until you've had a rest break of at least 10 hours. However, you can be on duty for an entire week without having to go off duty. ...not that I advise that. You cannot get behind the wheel of your truck and move it though once the 14th hour has passed.
     
  8. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I used to explain it as, you can drive your 11 out and use up your 14 but we could still have you wash my car on duty without being in violation.
     
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  9. Raezzor

    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    The regulation concerning the 14 hour rule verbatum from 395.3:

    Note that it says "may not drive" after 14 hours. It says nothing about any other activity. You could, according to the regs, spend 5 days straight loading freight, take a 10 hour break, then drive a full 11 hours. Well, no, actually you couldn't because you'd be in violation of the 70 hour rule, but you get the picture.
     
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  10. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    It doesn't say "one line", it says "one duty status record". In other words, you can put more than one day (multi-day) [up to 99] , as long as they are all identical , i.e OFF DUTY 24 hours, on one log sheet. At the bottom right side of each log ["# of days off duty Includes today"] insert the number of days you are recording. 01, 02, 03, etc....

    What everybody misses is the fact that "SLEEPER" is a location not an action. Line 1 and Line 2 are basically the same, they are both for "other than on duty". Sleeper is only required when doing a split day log.
     
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    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Has nothing to do with the topic or questions. This is the new 30 minute mandatory break before the eighth hour being ON DUTY,.....not driving, ON DUTY.
     
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