Anti Siphon,Fuel cap locks

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by reddemon71, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. reddemon71

    reddemon71 Light Load Member

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    Just wondering what drivers are using out there, I'd like to put in the anti siphon tubes but also would like to know if you can ever get them out. I see that the ads say once their in their in. I run a trailer with a generator and sometimes need to siphon fuel out of the trucks tank. Anyone hear of a fuel cap alarm? Not thrilled about putting on locking caps since the winter weather can affect them, or the key breaking off. Just would like some input
     
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  3. saskfarmer

    saskfarmer Bobtail Member

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    Not sure how helpful it would be anyways. Apparently the new lazy way of stealing fuel is to drill a hole in the tank, take whatever your containers hold, and let the rest drain on the ground.
     
  4. reddemon71

    reddemon71 Light Load Member

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    My opinion on that would be, you drill a hole which can cause a spark, then an explosion. I guess canadian criminals are not all that smart
     
  5. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    Diesel fuel isn't that volitile like gasoline is. Unless it is compressed or atomized it's extreamly stable as far as fuel goes.

    I guess Minisota truck drivers are not all that smart :biggrin_25523:

    I've had the sihon tubes but never had to remove on so I couldn't speak on that. I'm sure they can come out but if they were easy to remove it would kinda defeat the purpose wouldn't it. I'd go with a set of the cap locks. keep the locks lubed and keep some deicer and you'll be alright. you use them enough to keep from having too many problems
     
  6. Biker

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  7. droy

    droy Heavy Load Member

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    This was years ago, but I actually brought a steel Mack truck tank to a machine shop my company dealt with almost daily; our company mechanic had already called in requesting the leak be welded asap. Pulling up to their wash rack, I was going to start the steam cleaner going into it, then go to their office. Imagine my surprise, when the shop foreman stopped me saying they were going to repair it without cleaning! They did; after I removed it from my new company truck first! Leak repaired,- no explosion. :biggrin_25518:

    I know nothing about the Anti siphon tubes, but the locking caps are a PITA!
    Used to haul grain, always in dusty conditions, once I actually had to pull away from the fuel island cause I couldn't open either cap. Two cans of penetrating oil later, finally was able to fuel my truck. Lesson learned that day!
     
  8. reddemon71

    reddemon71 Light Load Member

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    Well i guess my 20+ yrs in the fire service was a waste. Diesel is flammable and under the right circumstances it can cause an explosion. And it's Minnesota not Minisota, I see you(MedicineMan) enjoy putting most people down on this site when their looking for some answers. I have read many of your responses and you never have anything good to say
     
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  9. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    I didn't put anyone down. I sent back what you gave out. I find it amusing people like to make statements like that and then get all hot and bothered when you turn it around on them. it's just my way of saying don't make snide comments that you don't want to hear about yourself. If you had just said not so bright criminals I probably wouldn't have even noticed it but by throwing in the canadian reference it's more of a general insult to canadians.
    If I was personally insulting you I wouldn't have gone on to give an answer wether or not you like it. I didn't say it wasn't flamible afterall it's fuel we are talking about not water but the fact is you are talking about drilling an aluminum tank with a steel bit. unless you are downright careless you won't even make sparks much less ignite the fuel. Now will I do it? no but i'm not the one out steal fuel in the night and yes I have seen it happen. it's a common way of stealing fuel from a reefer tank.

    By the way. I have helped out ALLOT of people with questions. so I'm sure there may be the odd snide comment mixed in there, everyone has a bad day afterall. But I don't get where you say I enjoy putting people down.
     
  10. BrainHurtz

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    So here's the deal if you drill into a metal tank below the fluid level you will not ignite the fuel. Simple thermo dynamics, heat is conducted away from the spot by the fluid internally. Drill into the top of a tank filled with something like gasoline vapors and you will have the three required parts of the fire triangle (heat, oxygen, fuel). Stay at the bottom of the tank and you'll only have the fuel part. I would imagine its pretty hard to drain a tank if you drill above the fluid level...

    Diesel is really #### hard stuff to ignite anyway. Have any of you heard of Roda Deaco? They make air valves for diesel trucks that do oil field and refinery work. Locations that can have enough fuel in the air to run a diesel engine with the ECM and fuel supply completely shut off. Even with that the heat from the engine and exhaust still doesn't set off fuel in the air.
     
  11. slamjet

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    Here, localy, they're punching holes in whatever tank there happens to be, both gas & diesel. There's a lot of barbed wire going up around warehouses and parking lots.
     
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