Is this just 1 company or the Industry as a whole??

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Big Papaxx, Oct 20, 2015.

  1. Kev's Sunshine

    Kev's Sunshine Light Load Member

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    I have to totally agree. There are just too many coincidences here. Can't pee? Drink some water. It takes an hour or less for your body to make urine from a cup of water. How little was his specimen? I mean really, it doesn't take much to run the test. His story sounds typical of a druggie who doesn't want to get caught. Prime is used to that story. The testers are used to that story.

    It's good of you to go to bat for your friend, but it sounds like he's taking advantage of you. YOU paid to fly him out there. In one of your posts you mentioned YOUR attorney helped him out. He's lucky he has a friend to pay his way out of his messes, but if I were you I'd be more cautious. There's standing by a good friend and then there is enabling them to keep relying on you. Just sayin'.
     
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  3. Big Papaxx

    Big Papaxx Medium Load Member

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    First of all it was not me it was a former employee of mine and a personal friend. There is not much more. We avoided litigation as it was just a matter of contacting the parties involved and pointing out the rules and regulations. Honestly I believe that they were following the procedures of there program as they always have and they had not ever had to deal with a situation like this.. yes I agree the fact that I offered all of my resources and knowledge to this young man so that he was treated according to the law rules and regulations helped him. I would like to think that everyone has learned from this and that in the future people are treated with the respect they deserve and not boned (as you put it) merely because they do not have the resources to defend themselves.
     
  4. Big Papaxx

    Big Papaxx Medium Load Member

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    Well he not just a friend and I would advise you read the entire thread.. I am also NOT taken advantage of by anyone EVER. I have been in business for many years this young man worked for me at 1 of my companies and was a personal friend. My attorney was made available to him if needed and yes myself and my attorney listened in on a conversation with FMCSA/ DOT official. I di fly him out there and I flew him home but he has repaid me all of those funds. I also paid to have him drug tested before he left and when he returned. He passed both.. I merely did not want anyone to have there reputation destroyed for something that by Law could not be reported. Even if he FAILED there drug test by the rules and regulations of the FMCSA/ DOT the test did not qualify because he did not have a CDL or CDL permit.. This thread was to ask a question as I wanted information. It also was to let individuals know that they do have rights and they should always pursue those rights and not be scared or intimidated because of GIANT companies or Federal Entities.
     
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  5. Kev's Sunshine

    Kev's Sunshine Light Load Member

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    I read the entire thread. I understand what I posted was rude, it just seems a little too much to believe from an outside perspective. If it's all true and he's an honest guy, then so be it. You seem like a good guy who will go the extra mile to help someone out, I didn't mean to portray you in any other light. That's a rare find. Sometimes we tend to be a little more blind to the people we care about is all I'm sayin'.

    I think the point made from your posts is to be super aware of your rights and what to expect before jumping into anything. Even the most informed people get taken advantage of from these companies.
     
  6. Big Papaxx

    Big Papaxx Medium Load Member

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    Through this process I have decided that I will obtain my CDL and then Sign on as A Lease operator with a mid size Transportation company. The reason is I have read and heard much information of people who have lost everything and that you simply cannot make money by leasing with a company. I will keep track of my experience and document what I find out. I am doing this because I do have resources and if I can show that there are ways to actually ways to succeed I can pass that information along in hopes that it will assist others to succeed or at the very least have access to informed unbiased information that will prevent them from losing everything... Yes I could easily go out and just buy a truck but that would not give me a true picture of what many people are writing about and to be honest the respect I have garnered for the men and women of this industry makes me want to be part of that..
     
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  7. Big Papaxx

    Big Papaxx Medium Load Member

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    Well thank you. Your post was not rude and I can see how anyone can look at the thread and have questions as to if this young man was being honest. I in fact believe he was and the end result I believe proved that. I also think that far to many of the people who are attending these schools do not know or understand there rights Hence the reason I will be getting my cdl and leasing on with a company through there lease..
     
  8. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    No, the lesson to learn is know the rules and tell Mega Corp to pound sand when they try and railroad your desired career into the ditch under false pretenses.
     
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  9. Ssssnake

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    Really? With all the ringers trying to sneak into the industry I'm told most of their student orientation classes lose half to drug test failures before they get around to cracking a CDL manual.

    If you were running a successful trucking company that did training you'd do the same thing. If even one of these idiots sneaks through far enough to get behind the wheel and gets in a fatal accident, the liability consequences can be devastating.
     
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  10. Big Papaxx

    Big Papaxx Medium Load Member

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    I agree that if someone made it through got in an accident and killed someone it would be not only be devastating it would be tragic. As in Illinois when the Secretary of State sold CDL's to finance his run for gov. Tragically 1 of the licences was given to a person who 1st was in the country illegally and 2nd had never driven a truck of any kind let alone the Semi he was driving when he hit a church bus and killed himself and 15 passengers... But lets not for 1 second pretend that these mega companies have the best interest of there students or the general public in mind. What is foremost in there mind is MONEY and PROFIT. While I do not think THAT THEY WILL BREAK THE LAW to make money.. They will however make sure everything they do is in there best interest Not the students..
     
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  11. Ssssnake

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    That is the most asinine statement I've heard in awhile. Trucking companies exist on the same public roads as the general public, and the safety of the general public has to the one of the top considerations on any decision at any motor carrier. The safety ratings of a motor carrier are not only reflected in which shippers a carrier can load at and the rates they can charge, the ability to continue operations in light of FMCSA policing of the industry, but are also enforced by the ability of rapacious personal injury attorneys to extort huge settlements in the case of an accident. Yes large corporations don't tend to be fuzzy-feely outfits, but every last one of them started out with one truck and one driver. To arbitrarily charge that safety is only a secondary concern at any of them is ludicrous.
     
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